[momtoalexsarah]

I Have been a TFoodist for quite awhile now (2+years) gluten free for the last year and I have felt good and my children have grown well.
The problem - before my son was born(my oldest) I had Poly cyctic Ovarian Syndrom and Insulin resistance. It went into remision after my son was born - over 5 years ago, in that time I've had 2 more children - my youngest being 2.5. In that time I've lost 70+lb on a TF diet.
The last 2 months though my Menstral cycles have been cycstic and I've gain 3lb.
I decieded a little over a week ago it take all grains out, and cut the carbs back even further and add extra ACV.
Here is an example of today
Breakfast
ACV
3 eggs scrabled in butter with some organic farmers cheese on top
Yerba mate tea

Lunch
ACV
Chicken theigh braised in bone broth
1/4 cup fried potatos' (skins on fried in butter)
colslaw made with ACV and olive oil
1 raw grapefruit

Dinner
ACV
sauted vegtables (cabblage,onion, red pepper, green beans) in butter and bone broth
3 slices of Organic Lacto fermented summer sausage that we have made out of our organic meats

Before be - ACV

I feel like crap - I have no energy, my brain is foggy, I am short tempered and my stomach hurts constantly - with a little nausea.
It wasn't this bad the first few days but is getting worse.
I also eat organic whole milk yogurt most days
I drink plenty of water and lots of yerba mate tea.
I can't use coconut oil because of a severe allergie to it in the house.
Any idea what I'm doing wrong - I did this to get better not worse

 

[momma4fun]

try cutting out fiber, at least for a few weeks

it's the only thing that's finally helped me

if you try this you'll be peeling your potatoes and avoiding most vegetables and whole grains, and any overcooked food

you can read The Fiber Menace

 

[Leilalu]

My guess would be you are detoxing? All that ACV is sure to do you good.

I do well at times too though if I cut back on too many veggies. It sounds weird, but sometimes I think you can really overdue it. There are times my body really doesn't want them at all.

 

[PaulaJoAnne]

I'm guessing you are detoxing as well?!
Have you tried Kombucha rather than ACV?
Either way, cut back on the amount, and start taking Ioderal and Maca Root.
Most likely your Adrenals and thyroid are taxed by the detox.
Both support a healthy "motor" and hotmones.
Ioderal also helps prevent cysts, and is highly anti bactirial and anti viral.
Paula

 

[momtoalexsarah]

If I avoid most vegtables what does that leave - just meats and a little yogurt.
I'm already getting the shakes with what I'm eating because it isnt lasting long enought and I do alot of very physically demanding work - we live on a farm and I do a large chunck of the chores
I have been eating around 2000 cal a day for a maintiance at at wt of 120 on a 5ft 2 frame so just having cut out more carbs has hit hard, I need somthing to have energy

 

[momtoalexsarah]

I would have liked to try Kombucha but it isn't availble here (or at least all the heath food stores that I've looked in - likely due to the alcohal content)
How long would the detox last - I think I could do another few days if it will get better but man I feel like crud - shakey, hot flashes, numb, not hungry for even the stuff I normally love.
I spent the afternoon playing with the kids with playdough that smelled like gingerbread cookies and I had no craving for sweets even.

 

[PaulaJoAnne]

Get on the sticky for Kombucha and kefir.
Just ask if anyone has a scoby available to mail you.
THey will give you the how too as well.
Its easy.
Alot of health food stores do not carry it because they do not know about it.
It has not been in the commercial market for very long.
However, making it yourself is easy and dirt cheap.
Paula

 

[AJP]

I know a lot of people need to do low carb to help PCOS/insulin resistance, but eating very low carb for any length of time makes me feel nauseated (I don't have PCOS, but tried low carb at one point, for several months).

 

[crunchy_mama]

I would think it is detox as well, perhaps candida die off. I wouldn't cut anymore food groups out myself, but I would eat more. Everytime I go back off of grains it is the same- you need to eat near double what you think you need in the beginning. Get you some snacks in there, snack on lots of high fat foods, butter, coconut oil. Do not count the calories, watch you body. When I was eating eggs and gf I could easily eat 4 fried eggs in the am and a qrt size smoothie and still need a snack 2 hrs later, and didn't gain any weight, but lost.

 

[newcastlemama]

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Originally Posted by crunchy_mama I would think it is detox as well, perhaps candida die off. I wouldn't cut anymore food groups out myself, but I would eat more. Everytime I go back off of grains it is the same- you need to eat near double what you think you need in the beginning. Get you some snacks in there, snack on lots of high fat foods, butter, coconut oil. Do not count the calories, watch you body. When I was eating eggs and gf I could easily eat 4 fried eggs in the am and a qrt size smoothie and still need a snack 2 hrs later, and didn't gain any weight, but lost.

This is my experince too (and I glad you shared it crunchy mama..sometimes I feel like I eat like a linebacker!). I am grain free (and not too many potatoes) and I need a lot of food and I do not gain. (I am also bfing)

It is also easier when you go grain free to cut things down in stages--like cut out grains, then slowly reduce carbs and add more protein and fats. Going grain and low carb all at once is really difficult IMO.

Maybe go slower on the ACV as well.

Jen

 

[honeysesame]

sounds like you were eating in a way that worked for you for a while, then all of a sudden things started changing in your body? is this correct? my own two cents is, if this is the case, before troubleshooting diet (unless you have a clear sense of what's going on) why not check in w/ your medical and holistic health care providers and see if they have a sense of what might be happening. then with that knowledge you will be better equipped to address the issue incorporating diet. there are probably also some good sources of this online-- i know someone here referenced susun weed's weekly hotline-- but of course there are sometimes things that are better understood in person, if possible. hugs to you as you navigate this part of your journey....

 

[honeysesame]

p.s.
also of course everyone's body is different. follow your intuition about what your own body needs if you can.

 

[quietserena]

Do you feel you're actually eating enough? Could it be that with the new changes your body feels hungry?

When I first went gluten free, I felt like I couldnt' eat enough. I think some of it might have been an emotional response because I was brought up with the mindset that if there's no bread, you're going to be hungry but there was also a physical response to going lower carb. Could the same thing be happening to you too?

I can't go too low carb either, I get to feeling unwell. BF is probably adding to that right now...

 

[WuWei]

Do you have mercury fillings in your teeth?

When I used ACV, for what I thought might be oral thrush, I suddenly had some killer headaches, malaise, and irritability.

What about adding green juice first thing in the morning for nutrient dense food source? It really gives me energy, but I don't feel hungry. Also, include some coconut oil, if you can.

Also, what about some essential fatty acids? Salmon is a wonderful source.

Pat

 

[Theloose]

If having too many veggies brings on symptoms, have you thought about the failsafe diet? It's my current obsession... In a nutshell, everyone has a limit to the amount of naturally occurring food chemicals in plants (salicylates) and not-totally-fresh protein (amines) they can process. If you eat over that limit, it can cause symptoms. The failsafe diet outlines which foods are low in those chemicals and provides a protocol for figuring out what your limit is.

And the reason I'm particularly interested in it right now is because salicylates increase your need for pantothenic acid. I need tons of pantothenic acid right now to deal with adrenal fatigue. And your adrenals are responsible for a significant portion of your sex hormones, so when they're overloaded, you can get all sorts of hormonal symptoms as a result.

www.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info and www.fedupwithfoodadditives.com are good places to start for more info.

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try cutting out fiber, at least for a few weeks it's the only thing that's finally helped me if you try this you'll be peeling your potatoes and avoiding most vegetables and whole grains, and any overcooked food you can read The Fiber Menace

This is kinda interesting, because besides avoiding whole grains, that's pretty much the failsafe diet as well!

 

[kangaroomum25]

I'd definetly cut back on the acv or even stop it completly for awhile and see if that makes a difference. What about adding just a little more fermented veggies, just about a Tbs with breakfast and lunch? (more is ok if you want though) You know your body best, do you think this might be something that you need medical help with? Were you doing soaked grains? I'd be tempted to add a few back. I know with animals it's allways reccomended to do any diet change slowly. Maybe keep a food journal and see if there's something that you've eaten and then felt better afterwards. Also you could try dandelion root tea and I think chlorella is good at binding with toxins to get them out of your body. You said your stomach hurts, what kind of hurt? Are you gassy? I've read something about too much potassium causing excess gas, but I'm not sure if that's true. Won't hurt to take a break from the acv though. Definetly could be a detox side effect.

 

[kentuckyfriedgirl]

It sounds like you might have the "Atkins flu," also called the "induction flu." Its basically flu-like symptoms that some people get when they first go on a very low carb diet. When I first went on a low-carb diet a few years ago, I felt so awful I thought I was getting an auto-immune disease

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If it is just related to the lower amount of carbs in your diet, you can either phase out the carbs more gradually or just go cold turkey and deal with the withdrawal symptoms all at one time.

 

[caedmyn]

I'd guess you're reacting to food chemicals. Most grains don't contain any of the food chemicals that people commonly react to, and if you've dropped grains you've likely replaced them with foods containing higher levels of food chemicals. www.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.com has more information on food chemicals, and it is possible to do a TF version of the Failsafe diet listed on that site.

 

[pampered_mom]

I'd tend to agree with AJP, newcastlemama and kentuckyfriedgirl. It sounds like the problems I've had in the past when cutting down on carbs and eating a similar diet to what you've posted.

 

[spiderdust]

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Originally Posted by pampered_mom I'd tend to agree with AJP, newcastlemama and kentuckyfriedgirl. It sounds like the problems I've had in the past when cutting down on carbs and eating a similar diet to what you've posted.

I'm going to chime in and say "me too" (although by now you may have figured this out).

How are you feeling now?