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My son will be 5 and loves the outdoors. For some reason I have a very negative stigma about cub/boy scouts. I don't know why. Can anybody tell me about it?<br>
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You know, I had that same feeling about boy scouts. I actually went to a meeting to become a den mother etc. and led a few meetings. My son was about 7 at the time. It gave me the creeps.<br>
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It totally depends on his den. The leader really sets the tone for it; ie. how rigid or fun and active the meetings & field trips are. Basically, it's just a fun hour/week to get together w/friends and play while learning stuff like how to build airplanes/boats/cars, make fires, operate snow plows, rescue people, etc etc.<br><br>
Of course, you could always get stuck w/a rigid book-waving leader, though.<br><br>
And, don't ask here if you're on the fence unless you're prepared for lots of condemnation of it. MDC has very strong negative opinions about BS due to the homophobia at the top level.
 

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DH was in scouts as a kiddo and loved it!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">:<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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I went through the scouting program here in Canada (it's co-ed here) and was a leader for 8 years untill my oldest was born. It truly is a great program especaily if you are looking for something that is no overbearingly religiose. (they spend a reflection time on Sat or sundays of a camp but are not "preaching to the kids nor do they require you to say grace before a meal (like girl guides -uggg those memories are scary) They also spend time learning about scouting around the world and in other cultures - very balanced from what I found. BUT that is all here in Canada and it may be vary different there in the US.
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">I went through the scouting program here in Canada (it's co-ed here) and was a leader for 8 years untill my oldest was born. It truly is a great program especaily if you are looking for something that is no overbearingly religiose. (they spend a reflection time on Sat or sundays of a camp but are not "preaching to the kids nor do they require you to say grace before a meal (like girl guides -uggg those memories are scary) They also spend time learning about scouting around the world and in other cultures - very balanced from what I found. BUT that is all here in Canada and it may be vary different there in the US.</td>
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GGOC no longer does the grace thing unless it is that individual leader's thing, but they cannot require the girls do it. They changed the pledges now & it is no longer "my duty to god..." but it is "faith" which could mean any religion or no religion at all.
 

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I think that scouting is great for kids.<br><br>
I was a girl scout for many years and a girl scout leader for many more. I hope my daughters want to be girl scouts.<br><br>
BUT... if I ever have a son I will never let him join the boy scouts of America, unless they change their policies and stop discriminating against homosexuals.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I think that scouting is great for kids.<br><br>
I was a girl scout for many years and a girl scout leader for many more. I hope my daughters want to be girl scouts.<br><br>
BUT... if I ever have a son I will never let him join the boy scouts of America, unless they change their policies and stop discriminating against homosexuals.</div>
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I also have icky feelings about scouting because of their stance on homosexuals. There was a case that went to the Supreme Court about a scout leader being thrown out of the organization after it was found out he was gay. The reason was that "homosexual conduct is inconsistent with the Scout oath ... and contrary to the Scout Law to be 'clean' in word and deed." This is according to a CNN story about the Supreme Court decision that the Scouts are allowed to exclude gays.<br><br>
I don't like the idea of my young ds taking any sort of oath that will swear he won't ever be gay. I don't like the idea of him ever having to be uncomfortable if he is gay or is friends with kids who are gay, and an organization he values tells him that being gay is "unclean." In fact, even if he NEVER associates with a single gay person, I still don't want him to get that message. No Scouts for us, I guess.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I think that scouting is great for kids.<br><br>
I was a girl scout for many years and a girl scout leader for many more. I hope my daughters want to be girl scouts.<br><br>
BUT... if I ever have a son I will never let him join the boy scouts of America, unless they change their policies and stop discriminating against homosexuals.</div>
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My husband is even <i>more</i> against boy scouts. I'm lukewarm about the boy scouts, and interested in the girl scouts. Dh has basically declared that his son will join scouts over his dead body - because of their stance on homosexuals and because of their insistence of belief in God/higher power. None of this is personal, as he's not homosexual, and we are religious. It's a matter of principle for him.<br><br>
Since dh feels so strongly, I don't really care, and ds isn't a joiner, it's not going to happen in our house.
 
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