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I am only about halfway through NT, and I love it! But I've read some comments that indicate some people aren't 100% into the book...<br><br>
So what about it did you *not* like or agree with?<br><br>
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The breastfeeding advice sucked. I don't like the emphasis on animal experiments which imply that human and other animals have similar nutritional needs and physiology...I think the way she uses some of the animal studies isn't scientific.<br><br>
Overall though, I found the book quite helpful.
 

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I mostly didn't like the format. It's a recipe book with lots of good info in sidebars next to the recipes. It's not so easy to just read through for information, and it's hard to just read the info without being distraced by the recipes.<br><br>
I'd prefer the book if all the nutrition info was in one part of the book, and all the recipes were in a separate part.
 

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I started to get annoyed with the "see how crazy everyone else is??? SEE??? SEE???" tone of the book about halfway through and I think that the use of terms like "diet dictocrats" cheapens the overall message. I also thought that they could have been a little more selective in the research they quoted.<br><br>
I haven't been hugely impressed with the recipes I've tried, either. I have worked as a professional cook and I've had much better results just taking the principles of the book and applying them to my own recipes and cooking style. Many of the recipes seem to have too much "fiddliness" to them.<br><br>
Oh, and the salt measure for the lactofermented ginger-carrots is way off.
 

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In addition to the above points, I didn't care for the way she emphasizes dairy and grains. I do like that she goes into traditional ways to prepare them so they're more healthful than conventional products. But, she seems to feel grains, and especially dairy, are critical parts of our diets. I disagree. I don't think any of us *need* either. They're culturally important, and emotionally fulfilling. For that reason, I'm glad to know how to handle them more healthfully. But I really get the feeling she believes that life without milk can't possibly be healthy.<br><br>
Same with meat. Now, I do agree with her that we need some animal products, whether meat or milk. And I think that everyone has a different level of need. But she refuses to acknowledge that some people are perfectly healthy on very little. I do think many people can make it just fine on eggs and maybe milk, with no meat; or meat but no egg or milk.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">In addition to the above points, I didn't care for the way she emphasizes dairy and grains. I do like that she goes into traditional ways to prepare them so they're more healthful than conventional products. But, she seems to feel grains, and especially dairy, are critical parts of our diets. I disagree. I don't think any of us *need* either. They're culturally important, and emotionally fulfilling. For that reason, I'm glad to know how to handle them more healthfully. But I really get the feeling she believes that life without milk can't possibly be healthy.<br><br>
Same with meat. Now, I do agree with her that we need some animal products, whether meat or milk. And I think that everyone has a different level of need. But she refuses to acknowledge that some people are perfectly healthy on very little. I do think many people can make it just fine on eggs and maybe milk, with no meat; or meat but no egg or milk.</div>
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Her approach is even more puzzling given the clear indications from Dr. Price's own data that suggests that most traditional cultures had a very limited diet, and that those limited diets were very healthy.
 

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I just don't like the book. I don't even try most recipes because I just look at them and think something is off to me. There ARE some good things about it, but as a whole, it's too much for me to read the entire thing for as little as I have gotten out of it just by skimming through to see what it's about.<br><br>
I really don't know why I bought it, mainly to see what all the fuss is about it, I don't know what I was expecting, but I didn't get much out of it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">.<br><br>
I do think though, for someone who has no clue about how to prepare traditional foods, it could be very useful.<br><br>
Having said this I have a Tradition Polish cookbook that is a great reference for me. I've been fermenting and soaking grains for a long time, and to sound horribly snotty I really don't need much kitchen help<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> I still like books though!
 

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Dh & I think sally's picture on the back is hilarious. She looks like she has a bad attitude and a chip on her shoulder! It's rather amusing, really. I think the book is a great starting point. And I agree, I prefer my recipes tweeked to fit NT ways to some listed in the book. I wish it discussed more how to switch over to a more nt way of eating as more of a day to day thing. Don't get me wrong-I love the book. I just feel like I want more creativity now that I am well on my way.<br>
oh, and I wasn't happy to read tea is one of the newfangled foods. I love my tea!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">oh, and I wasn't happy to read tea is one of the newfangled foods. I love my tea!</div>
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I hear ya there...I don't care what SF or anyone says, I'm not gonna give up my tea! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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I generally like the book, ut there are definitly some things I extremely dislike.<br><br>
1. The stance on breastfeeding. I remember reading the formula section back before I had children and before I was well educated in breastfeeding. Even back then I said, "HUH!?!"<br><br>
2. So many of the recipes just are not quite "right." Too much or too little salt. A weird ingredient that throws off the flavor. The lack of an important ingredient or spice to provide flavor. A simple baking technique that is left out, resulting in substandard aked goods. There are very few recipes in the book that I do not alter in some way in order to make them taste better.<br><br>
3. The hysterical tone of the book. I really dislike the whole "us aginst the 'diet dictocrats'" thing. A lot of what she has to say makes sense, but I don't like the aggressive, abrasive tone she takes throughout the book.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Dh & I think sally's picture on the back is hilarious. She looks like she has a bad attitude and a chip on her shoulder! It's rather amusing, really.</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> If you look closely, you can see that she is straddling a chair! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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NT is very intimidating, with ingredients that I've never used before. Does any one has an alternative to this book, or supplemental? I've looked into "Eating of Garden," but it too has many ingredients that are foreign to me...
 

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I liked the book on a whole. I cannot recall exact specifics right now, but I do remember some points contradicting themselves within the book.<br>
I guess I just like the outline of the diet, adding fermented foods, fats etc into my diet. I had tried so many different ways of eating from raw to vegan to veg and all in between. I never quite felt well until I cut grains out of my diet. I felt much better after reading this book and trying to heal my gut at the ssame time. I still like it... but take it with a grain of salt ( give or take!)
 

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I picked up the book about six years ago and put it back.<br>
I did this over and over again but finally picked it up because I found it frequently referenced here at MDC.<br><br>
Two things have stood out for me all those many times I picked up NT only to return it to the shelf - and they are not good, logical reasons. Totally shallow and silly. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> That photo of Sally on the back cover and the recipie for brains.<br>
I just couldn't dig it.<br><br>
But, now that I do own it, I have got many great things out of it. I don't agree with everything. I take what I like and leave the rest . . .it's food, not religion.<br><br>
BTW, I really enjoyed Full Moon Feast, for those who were looking for other books to inspire them.
 

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I like the book overall. There is a wealth of information. I enjoy flipping through it from time to time to read what she has to say about a given food. This book is a starting point for those interested in traditional foods and whole foods. Like any other book, it has its plusses and minuses.<br><br>
I don't really use Sally's recipes. Her recipes just don't taste that good to me. I adapt the NT principles to recipes I have in other books and that works for me.<br><br>
I also found the way her message is delivered to be a big turn off. I prefer she say what she has to say without spending so much time tearing down the "other" side. The overall "us v. them", "diet dictocrats" etc. got on my nerves. I don't disagree with her that people may be getting incorrect information it's just that she has some of the same dictatorial tendencies that she complains is found in the mainstream food police!<br><br>
The presentation of material was chaotic. The sidebars are interesting but it would have been better to have the recipes in one section and the sidebar information in a separate section. Now I'm out there and willing to try a lot of things but I just don't see my mainstream friends interested in this book because so many of the recipes are weird by American standards. It would have been nice if she could have found a way to make the recipes more palatable to the general public.<br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Dh & I think sally's picture on the back is hilarious. She looks like she has a bad attitude and a chip on her shoulder! It's rather amusing, really. I think the book is a great starting point. And I agree, I prefer my recipes tweeked to fit NT ways to some listed in the book. I wish it discussed more how to switch over to a more nt way of eating as more of a day to day thing. Don't get me wrong-I love the book. I just feel like I want more creativity now that I am well on my way.<br>
oh, and I wasn't happy to read tea is one of the newfangled foods. I love my tea!</div>
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Actually that picture is misleading. My DH met her and she was actually really sweet. He said she was tall (but my DH is 5'7, so that doesn't say much) and big (not fat, just big bone structure). He also said she has "scars on her face"...????
 

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For fermenting I really preferred Wild Fermentation. He gives much better instructions and variations and it's an interesting read. As excited as I was about NT I haven't tried many of the recipes. Most of them just don't look very tasty, kind of bland IMO.
 

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I hear two complaints repeatedly.<br><br>
1. Breastfeeding info. Plenty of negatives about that.<br><br>
2. The vast majority of the recipes either flop (banana bread, anyone? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">) or aren't family friendly. In fact, many people describe the recipes as being too French. That's why I started my website- to give recipes that kids would eat that fall into line with the dietary principals of WAPF. I'm also working on a series of cookbooks with tested recipes that are more family friendly.
 

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Krankedyann, just wanted to say thanks for the awesome recipe pages. My kids have liked the few recipes I've tried and I'm looking forward to the book!!!!
 
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