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I posted this in another thread, but I think it got lost...<br><br>
What do you all do when your DC have to go to the ER? I've had to take DS twice in the past few months, and both times was asked whether he was vaxed--seems like it's part of the routine. The first time, I was not prepared, said "no" sort of tentatively, and the nurse gave me a bit of a hard time. The second time at the ER, I knew it was coming, so said "no" pretty confidently, and that was that.<br><br>
But should I say something else, like "no comment" unless it could be a "vax-related emergency"? (And what would that entail?)
 

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What I tell them depends. If it's an injury I say he's up to date (he is according to my no vax schedule). If he's sick, I tell them they're against our religion.
 

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I had this experience on Thanksgiving. I took dd (my vax damaged dd) to the ER - she had pneumonitis.<br><br>
The nurse gave me a hard time. Well, not really a hard time, but I could feel the judgments all over the place and then her remarks afterward were sarcastic and disrespectful.<br><br>
She made one too many nasty comments before I jumped down her throat. I asked her flat out, "Are you behaving this way toward me b/c I told you I no longer vaccinate my children, because it seems that your attitude has completely changed since I gave you that information."<br><br>
She quickly changed her tune. Meanwhile, dh was sitting behind me saying, "Terri, Terri, Terri" trying to calm me down before I really let loose. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I'm sick of all this pussyfooting around that we feel like we have to do.<br><br>
It's our choice. Period. Should be the end of discussion yk?<br><br>
Sorry. To answer your question (<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">) I really believe it's best to tell the truth. I could have lied and even thought I should have, but yk what? No. I tell the truth and if people have an issue w/it then I can make it an issue too. And I am not the kind of person that makes issues of things at all, but this is that important. People need to know the truth.
 

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Just say "no". It's not the ER doc's job to talk you into vaccinating, just to make sure that whatever you're there for won't kill you. I wouldn't lie, but they don't need any more information than that.
 

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We don't go to the ER unless it is some trauma incidence and then in order to expedite treatment we would say "we are all up to date" since we would not take the tetanus vax anyway.<br><br>
Sickness we treat ourselves at home.
 

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I always tell the truth when asked. Granted, it hasn't been that often, but I do tell the truth. I don't think it would be a good idea to have a spotty history on answering that question if for some strange reason anyone were to check the history of one of my kids charts.
 

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i tell the truth, and if pressed I say "vaccines are contraindicated given our family history." I've never had anyone give me flak about it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/fingersx.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="fingersx">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I had this experience on Thanksgiving. I took dd (my vax damaged dd) to the ER - she had pneumonitis.<br><br>
The nurse gave me a hard time. Well, not really a hard time, but I could feel the judgments all over the place and then her remarks afterward were sarcastic and disrespectful.<br><br>
She made one too many nasty comments before I jumped down her throat. I asked her flat out, "Are you behaving this way toward me b/c I told you I no longer vaccinate my children, because it seems that your attitude has completely changed since I gave you that information."<br><br>
She quickly changed her tune. Meanwhile, dh was sitting behind me saying, "Terri, Terri, Terri" trying to calm me down before I really let loose. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I'm sick of all this pussyfooting around that we feel like we have to do.<br><br>
It's our choice. Period. Should be the end of discussion yk?<br><br>
Sorry. To answer your question (<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">) I really believe it's best to tell the truth. I could have lied and even thought I should have, but yk what? No. I tell the truth and if people have an issue w/it then I can make it an issue too. And I am not the kind of person that makes issues of things at all, but this is that important. People need to know the truth.</div>
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That's the kind of fire I like to see! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbsup"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/clap.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="clap"><br><br>
Oh, and uh, to answer the post...We haven't been there yet, thank goodness, but yeah, I'll be honest about DD's vax-free status.
 

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We had this experience several months ago. We were taking ds to a children's hospital ER. For some reason I thought because it was a children's hospital they would be nasty about it. Nope. Nurse said: "Vax up to date?" I said "No. Family history contraindicates blah blah blah." She interrupted me (politely) with "He doesn't get any?" "No." I replied. "Fine." she said, and continued with business as usual. None of the doctors we saw after brought it up.<br><br>
I was relieved. I know it may not always be like that. But I was expecting a fight and didn't get one. If there's a next time, I'll go with the uber-confident "No. He doesn't get them." response.
 

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Thanks for these great responses. I'll stick to telling the truth, though one part of me (the bad side) would like to say something like, "Oh, God, no--of course he doesn't get vaccinated," as if that were the "normal" thing. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Thanks for these great responses. I'll stick to telling the truth, though one part of me (the bad side) would like to say something like, "Oh, God, no--of course he doesn't get vaccinated," as if that were the "normal" thing. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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It isn't nearly as rare as it was 5 years ago <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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It's a standard intake question.<br><br>
I've answered in 2 different ways:<br><br>
"she's on an alternate vaccination schedule"<br><br>
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"she has all of the vaccines I want her to have"
 

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We've been in that situation too. DS had false croup but nurses and docs took the opportunity to lecture us about not vaxing. When the fourth person on the same night questioned our choice in a not-so-nice-way, I got angry. And started blabbering out all sorts of scientific facts I could remember <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blahblah.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blah blah">.<br>
Turned out he was the head pediatrician, but he said in the end he trusted my choice, that i had done my research and said his own knowledge was very limited. He said he only knew what he was "taught at med-school". ???<br><br>
I would always tell the truth though. They might need that information to help your child.
 

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Depends on why I am taking them in.<br><br>
If it is for a injury then I just say Yes they are up to date.<br><br>
If they are sick and I know what I wrong ie ear infection, asthma etc I say Yes they are up to date.<br><br>
If on the other hand I ever take them in for being sick and I dont know what the problem is then I will tell them we do not vax. I will do this so that they will look for things they may not have looked for because they ASSume that it cant be certain things because they are vaxed for it.
 

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We went ot the ER a couple years ago when my ds fell of his bike and misplaced some teeth.. they asked, I said no, they said OK and went on asking questions!! I was very impressed...<br><br>
We went once for that and once for severe conjunctivitis that was causing extreme pain, and I think thats it. Both times I was honest and received no flak.. but we live in ME and have Philisophical exemption too, which may be why?? I have complete right by law to say "we dont believe in them" that may be harder in states with just medical or religious...<br><br>
However, my dd and ds both attend(ed) preschool in NH and they only have medical and religious and we haven't had any trouble at school. They just said with ds his first year "as long as you know he cant come if we have an infectious disease outbreak" or something like that.. im like ... sure whatever...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Turned out he was the head pediatrician, but he said in the end he trusted my choice, that i had done my research and said his own knowledge was very limited. He said he only knew what he was "taught at med-school". ???</div>
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Dr. Sears has a section about this in his Vaccine book--that in med school, doctors are basically taught about the diseases and not (much) about the vaxes... which makes sense when you consider the way the majority of medical professionals act towards those who don't vax.
 
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