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Our town only recycles bottles w/ #1 or #2, so even though other things are made out of #1 and #2 plastic, they can't be recycled here. And what about all the other plastics? It's frustrating to me.<br><br>
I guess I should feel fortunate that our town does anything, right?<br><br>
Office paper is taken, but only at the main dump. Well, I'll do my share there - junk mail, cleaning out my files, general paper stuff from my former accounting job, it accumulated a lot of paper waste.<br><br>
I'm just wondering what do I do with the plastic I can't recycle, dump it in the landfill??? I'm certainly going to look for items that come in plastic I can recycle and choose an alternative if one exist. Avalon biodegradable wipes which I bought for a trip recently are in a #5 container, good for the wipes, bad for our landfill.<br><br>
I FreeCycle what I can, clothes, shoes, toys, a/c units, computer things, etc. But there is just so much trash that comes into the house from packaging, it drives me nuts. Even HFS items, Namaste GF cake mix in a paper bag has a plastic bag inside!!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: Why be wasteful and package something twice?<br><br>
I have to wonder though how efficient are recycled products such as paper. How much water and energy are used to clean the paper for re-use? Is it truely effective? And how are those 7th Generation paper towels compared to Bounty? I like paper towels for some cleaning jobs, some messes are too messy for me to even think about putting a towel in the washer!<br><br>
I wash shocked when I picked up some organic disposable nursing pads that the local grocery had on sale as a discontinued product -- noted on the package 100% virgin forest was use in the production of these organic nursing pads. Well, duh as I thought about it. I use flannel pads myself, but I just thought I'd look at the package to see why someone would buy those over something else.<br><br>
Organic might be good for food items, but I'm not seeing Organic as being a source I would want to use for disposable paper products or even clothing (I use recycled clothing most of the time).
 

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Have you tried freecycling the plastics you can't recycle? Schools, daycare centers and other groups might be able to use them for crafts, etc. I'd just start hanging on to them if space allows and then when you have a significant amount, put them on freecycle. I've just started doing this. I'm hoping someone here can use them.
 

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I noticed all the wipe boxes I have are #5. I use them to sort small toy items like beads and string, funny puzzles, etc. I used a lot of wipes with my oldest child before I moved to cloth with my 2nd. CHUBS had "lego" type boxes that would snap and stack together -- I think CHUBS no longer exist!<br><br>
Space is an issue for me. I had a yard sales worth of stuff in our garage sorted for a yard sale, it rained 2 weekends in a row and my dh took it all to the dump. I was mad. There went perfectly good stuff like a baby bathtub, pots and pans, dishes, etc to the landfill! If I put something up on FreeCycle and it does not go and it is not GoodWill able, it goes to the dump.<br><br>
My dh hates stuff kicking around. For some reason, we stopped recycling at some point for a few months (travel, bug problem, baby, who knows, don't remember really) and the recycle bins we had purchased were kicking around the yard, those are gone now to the dump!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: My dh is upset that the boxes of clothes I'm sorting are out in the basement, if I don't hurry up all our clothes will be at the dump. He has no idea how much money I save by getting used clothing and keeping clothing from our first child to pass on down the line.<br><br>
I try, but I can only do so much. Any time I'm down for pregnancy or birth or sick, systems I have in place in our home go to h---. I'm just getting stuff back together since a really rough pregnancy and birth, baby#4 is 3 months old now.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Our town only recycles bottles w/ #1 or #2, so even though other things are made out of #1 and #2 plastic, they can't be recycled here. And what about all the other plastics? It's frustrating to me.</div>
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Ours only recycles 1 and 2 as well. We've tried to avoid buying things made with other types, but I agree it's hard!<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have to wonder though how efficient are recycled products such as paper. How much water and energy are used to clean the paper for re-use? Is it truely effective? And how are those 7th Generation paper towels compared to Bounty? I like paper towels for some cleaning jobs, some messes are too messy for me to even think about putting a towel in the washer!</div>
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I did a lot of research on this for a work article. It takes <b>less energy</b> to recycle paper than to pulp virgin wood, so recycled paper products are definitely part of the solution. In addition, by using recycled products, you're making it possible for those materials to stay out of the landfill and get reused.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My dh hates stuff kicking around. For some reason, we stopped recycling at some point for a few months (travel, bug problem, baby, who knows, don't remember really) and the recycle bins we had purchased were kicking around the yard, those are gone now to the dump!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: My dh is upset that the boxes of clothes I'm sorting are out in the basement, if I don't hurry up all our clothes will be at the dump.</div>
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Yup, we're married to the same sort. I started recycling, because he won't and my whole recycling tub was empty, because he threw it in the trash bin on trash day. He said that there was room for it in there<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"> .
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I did a lot of research on this for a work article. It takes <b>less energy</b> to recycle paper than to pulp virgin wood, so recycled paper products are definitely part of the solution. In addition, by using recycled products, you're making it possible for those materials to stay out of the landfill and get reused.</div>
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Do you have the article or some of your sources? DH is not supportive of recycling because a)he says it takes more energy to recycle and b) we are giving companies this stuff for free (or $ to our county if they sell it) and not getting a benefit for ourselves.<br><br>
Plus there is no recycling pick up here and the drive is pretty far, so DH is actually against recycling.<br><br>
TIA (sorry to hijack the thread)
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Do you have the article or some of your sources? DH is not supportive of recycling because a)he says it takes more energy to recycle and b) we are giving companies this stuff for free (or $ to our county if they sell it) and not getting a benefit for ourselves.</div>
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I'm sorry you have to battle your DH on this one. That doesn't sound like fun.<br><br>
a. <a href="http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/non-hw/recycle/benefits.pdf" target="_blank">This PDF</a> from the EPA has some info. Check out page 8 (according to page numbers) or page 10 (according to the PDF page numbers) for a box about paper recycling specifically. It also cites a paper by the Environmental Defense Fund you might be able to find. Wikipedia has some info on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_recycling" target="_blank">paper recycling</a> specifically. But of course, it's "balanced" and gives both perspectives, one of which I think is bunk if you read the scientific reports. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
b. To that, I would say that recycling isn't about getting a benefit for yourself or your family. It's about being a responsible citizen of this world and taking care of it for future generations.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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Thank you! I think he would be more ok with itif the actualy recycling was easier and if we had space to store our recyclables. He would tolerate it then. Since I can't change those factors, I'm just going to have to change his views!<br><br>
Thanks again!!!
 
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