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What Does "No Parking" Mean To You?

  • You may not stop, sit, or wait there at all. Ever.

    Votes: 53 58.2%
  • You may stop very briefly to pick up someone already waiting at the curb. Say, about a minute.

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • You can sit in the car and wait as long as you are still in the car and the car is running.

    Votes: 17 18.7%
  • You can sit in the car and wait as long as you are still in the car, with the car off.

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • You can park there and leave the car, since it's only for 10-15 minutes.

    Votes: 3 3.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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<p>Let's say we're talking about a school parking lot.  Not a designated drop-off/pick-up area, just the perimeter of the parking lot where people "park" to wait for their children.  This place has "no parking" signs, but is not a fire lane.  The people who park there annoy the bleep out of me, because there are <em>dozens</em> of spots available, and those of us who choose to actually park in a spot have difficulty backing out because of the people "parked" on the curb.  Then, I'm thinking that maybe I have a different definition of "parking," than everyone else, because since the new "no parking" signs have been put up, there seems to be absolutely no change in peoples' behavior.</p>
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<p>So, what does "no parking" mean to you?</p>
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<p>I think for this poll, we can assume that the stopping and waiting is about 10-15 minutes long.  That's when most parents arrive to pick up their children, 10-15 minutes before kids are released.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>ramama</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1283379/what-does-no-parking-mean-to-you#post_16091385"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p> </p>
<p>So, what does "no parking" mean to you?</p>
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<br><br><p>It means no parking.</p>
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<p>I answered before I realized so many people had different opinions of what the word 'parking' means. I just assumed everyone would know that the word park means to put a car in a spot, turn off the engine, and get out of the car, leaving the car there.</p>
 

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<p>In some situations, I take it as "no stopping at all". That would include the scenario you're describing, where you're in someone's way.</p>
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<p>In some situations, I take it as "no parking", but I will wait for someone in the van. That way, if the spot is needed, I can immediately move away. (Some fire lanes are like, and a few other places.)</p>
 

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<p>I really dislike when people do that. Our school parking lot is a mess as well, people park everywhere. I now only back into a spot because I never know if someone is going to come along and park behind me and make it very difficult to get out while watching for children. I did have someone last year pull up right behind me and wait for a child, and wait and wait while talking to a teacher of all things while I am sitting inside my car waiting to pull out. I finally just started slowly backing out, both the teacher and the car moved promptly. <img alt="mischievous.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/mischievous.gif"></p>
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<p>The dance and gymnastics center parking lots are interesting as well, I learned which certain spots I couldn't get blocked in as easily and only park there. My life would be so much easier if people could just follow the rules are park where they are supposed to instead of 15 feet closer. </p>
 

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<p>I say if you're in the car and it's running, but there is the caveat that you move it immediately if need be. OTOH, I don't own a car, and we have a wide variety of signs, which mean different things:</p>
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<p>No Parking means you cannot get out of the car. But you may stop there and turn the engine off, if you are with the car.</p>
<p>No Standing means you may stop the car there, but the engine must be running and moved immediately if need be. If you're still there after 10 minutes or so, a traffic cop is probably going to tell you to get a move on.</p>
<p>No Stopping means you may not stop there at all for any length of time at all.</p>
 
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<p>No parking means you don't park there.</p>
<p>If you stop for 1 minute or less to pick up someone already standing there and then drive off immediately then I don't consider that parking.</p>
 
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>EviesMom</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1283379/what-does-no-parking-mean-to-you#post_16091913"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I say if you're in the car and it's running, but there is the caveat that you move it immediately if need be. OTOH, I don't own a car, and we have a wide variety of signs, which mean different things:</p>
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<p>No Parking means you cannot get out of the car. But you may stop there and turn the engine off, if you are with the car.</p>
<p>No Standing means you may stop the car there, but the engine must be running and moved immediately if need be. If you're still there after 10 minutes or so, a traffic cop is probably going to tell you to get a move on.</p>
<p>No Stopping means you may not stop there at all for any length of time at all.</p>
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<p>This.</p>
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<p>And they all have the additional unofficial addendum "don't be a jerk".</p>
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<p>Officially, I'd say the curbside stoppers are okay. But the shape of the parking lot makes them violate the unofficial addendum. So I'd get the school to change it to a no stopping, standing, or parking lane and to tell anyone who complains it's because the pick up area was being abused. ETA: Actually the "no waiting" sign would be more fair.</p>
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<p>(Note, I'm not blocking traffic, but I hate it SOOOOOO much when dh takes 10+ minutes to get to the car. "I just had to finish writing an email" Well, then, when you call me to come get you, finish it in the 20 minutes it takes to drive there!!)</p>
 

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<p>I think in this instance, better than "no parking" would have been signs that said "no waiting"-since that's what the individuals in question are doing.  I generally consider parking to be when you turn off the car and the driver exits; so when the driver is in their seat with the car running and can move the car immediately if they need to, I don't think of it as being the same.</p>
 

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<p>I might pull up for a moment for someone walking out of the door or someone who is already outside but I wouldn't stop for longer than that.  Depending on the area I might not even do that, say if it was really busy and truly did make it harder for the parked cars to come and go.  I'd reconsider stopping for a minute if I really would be blocking someone for that minute... if the person i'm picking up is at the curb though and can just jump in and buckle while I pull away though I'd probably still pull up.  no sense taking a spot for that brief moment.</p>
 

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<p>I picked "Other".  Because I think it depends on the circumstances as well as location.</p>
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<p>Like, around here, parents do that "Sitting and Waiting; with car off" in the "No Parking" zone area of the parking lots.  But, it is really the "road" (if you can call it that, you know, the path that you drive around the outside of all the spaces for parking) around the lot, and they line up to pick up their children.  As annoying as it may be, our schools require parents to pick them up.  This is the only real way they can do it.  They line up all around the parking lot and all the way down the street.  So, even though it is all a "No Parking" zone, the police never issue tickets, because it is just how it has to be done, here.</p>
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<p>So, in that instance, I think "No Parking" means no leaving your car there unattended.</p>
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<p>In front of a store, say Wal Mart, I sometimes sit in the "No Parking" zone (out of traffic's way) as I wait for someone, so long as it is only a minute or two.  This is common here as well.</p>
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<p>So, in this instance, I think "No Parking" means no turning off your car or staying there longer than a couple of minutes.</p>
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<p>When I go to pick up my husband from work, sometimes I sit and wait in the "No Parking" zone.  Parking is very limited and most of the time the meters are all used.  I know I will be there less than 15 minutes and I am not in anyone's way, so I turn the car off and sit and wait.  But, would never get out of the car.  Many people stop to pick up others getting off of work in this area, though usually they "hug" the building more, creating congestion.  Me, I sit across the road at the "T" part of an intersecting side road; one no one ever thinks to wait in.  Does not cause any congestion and puts me close enough to be there when I am needed.</p>
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<p>So, in this instance, I think "No Parking" means no leaving car unattended or remaining there for very long.</p>
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<p>However, that is just how I read the signs.  Realistically, I know that "No Parking" means "NO PARKING" at all, though I still think pulling over for a minute or so to pick up or drop off is perfectly fine and within the "spirit" of the sign.  (Otherwise they would have said, "No STOPPING"; which they do have in several places around here.)</p>
 

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<p>I think of parking as leaving the car.  Wouldn't want people to just run their engines so they can be considered not parking.  But I can see that people lining up their cars at a kids' pick up point would be a problem if kids had to walk between "parked" cars to get to the parking area.  That would be pretty hazardous, kids passing behind and in front of cars with no clear pedestrian walkway...  Usually signs say "No Standing or Idling" in that situation though I can see kids being confused by that, lol.</p>
 

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<p>to me, parking is when your vehicle is stopped (other on or off) for longer than it takes for someone/something to get in or out of your car. </p>
<p>so in the situation described in the op, they are all parked.  just last week, my husband pulled into a curbside parking spot to let me out of the vehicle while i ran into the store to pick something up and the traffic guard came up and told my husband he had to plug the meter because he was "parked" (with the car on, everyone inside). </p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>sapphire_chan</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1283379/what-does-no-parking-mean-to-you#post_16091966"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>EviesMom</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1283379/what-does-no-parking-mean-to-you#post_16091913"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I say if you're in the car and it's running, but there is the caveat that you move it immediately if need be. OTOH, I don't own a car, and we have a wide variety of signs, which mean different things:</p>
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<p>No Parking means you cannot get out of the car. But you may stop there and turn the engine off, if you are with the car.</p>
<p>No Standing means you may stop the car there, but the engine must be running and moved immediately if need be. If you're still there after 10 minutes or so, a traffic cop is probably going to tell you to get a move on.</p>
<p>No Stopping means you may not stop there at all for any length of time at all.</p>
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<p>This.</p>
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<p>And they all have the additional unofficial addendum "don't be a jerk".</p>
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<p>Well said.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>EviesMom</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1283379/what-does-no-parking-mean-to-you#post_16091913"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I say if you're in the car and it's running, but there is the caveat that you move it immediately if need be. OTOH, I don't own a car, and we have a wide variety of signs, which mean different things:</p>
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<p>No Parking means you cannot get out of the car. But you may stop there and turn the engine off, if you are with the car.</p>
<p>No Standing means you may stop the car there, but the engine must be running and moved immediately if need be. If you're still there after 10 minutes or so, a traffic cop is probably going to tell you to get a move on.</p>
<p>No Stopping means you may not stop there at all for any length of time at all.</p>
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This. My first thought was that the signage is poor. There should be a "No Stopping" sign, not a "No Parking" sign. At least according to the traffic rules around here. </p>
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<p>Although, if they are obviously interfering with traffic flow and obstructing people who have parked in designated spots, then signs shouldn't really be necessary and they should move or not stop there in the first place. Good signage can only help the situation though. </p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>galincognito</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1283379/what-does-no-parking-mean-to-you#post_16093667"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>to me, parking is when your vehicle is stopped (other on or off) for longer than it takes for someone/something to get in or out of your car. </p>
<p>so in the situation described in the op, they are all parked.  just last week, my husband pulled into a curbside parking spot to let me out of the vehicle while i ran into the store to pick something up and the traffic guard came up and told my husband he had to plug the meter because he was "parked" (with the car on, everyone inside). </p>
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In that case, I'd say it had more to do with fact he was occupying a spot that could be taken by a vehicle that would park and pay. Metered spots are different than "no parking" spots.</p>
 

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<p>I would have to answer this question in two different ways.</p>
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<p>Right away I'd be inclined to answer that 'no parking' would mean that a ticket could be issued if a car was parked and left in that spot. So if my car was running, or even if I was in the car and could move immediately chances are I'm not going to be ticketed, I'd simply be told to move.</p>
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<p>On the other hand, there is also some unsaid common sense courtesy that should be taken into account. In the case of the OP it's rude to place your car in a spot that is clearly in the way of traffic.</p>
 
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