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Hi, mamas...this is not my territory, and I need opinions from people who have a lot more information than I do...<br><br>
A friend's ds, who has just started kindergarten, has a list of symptoms that either defy diagnosis, or else she just hasn't been going to the right specialists. Of course, I don't expect to "diagnose" him here, but I was wondering if my description of this child would ring a bell for anyone. Here's a list of everything I can think of:<br><br>
Physical signs:<br><br>
- Low muscle tone in the upper body (has been diagnosed with this, but it's easy to observe in a playground)<br><br>
- somewhat slack facial expression, including epicanthal folds of the eye even though neither parent has this (and they are not of Asian descent)<br><br>
- Extreme drooling as a baby, and still seems to get "wet lips" while talking. He also chews very sloppily.<br><br>
- hands are limp while running<br><br>
Behavioral signs:<br><br>
- aggression with other children<br><br>
- very rigid about how toys are played with<br><br>
- trouble with sharing<br><br>
- lack of imaginative play<br><br>
- lack of empathy (will laugh when others get hurt, for example)<br><br>
- preoccupation with certain objects, for example, every time he is at my house, he needs to see my vacuum cleaner, and seems to be very agitated if he cannot do this. He also asks me what is in my basement (the washer and dryer) and if they are loud, every single time he is at my home.<br><br>
- sensory issues (I think). He frequently squeezes his baby brother's head, not out of aggression - he seems to need the feeling, if that makes sense.<br><br>
Language signs:<br><br>
- he actually spoke at an early age, but when he speaks he sounds kind of flat. There isn't a lot of change of inflection and tone in his voice when he speaks. He does make eye contact and will initiate conversations with adults, actually more so than with other children.<br><br>
- when excited, he squeals like a baby does.<br><br>
I can't think of anything else at the moment, but does this sound like anything to you?
 

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I read your posting and took 'epicanthal folds' and put it through google.<br><br>
that lead me to this yahoo site which led me to some of these...<br><br><br>
I wondered about this one, in particular...<br><br><a href="http://health.yahoo.com/health/encyclopedia/001116/0.html" target="_blank">http://health.yahoo.com/health/encyc.../001116/0.html</a><br><br><br>
here is a list of the others associated...<br><br>
they all seem to be a genetic abnormality<br><br><a href="http://health.yahoo.com/health/encyclopedia/003030/0.html" target="_blank">http://health.yahoo.com/health/encyc.../003030/0.html</a><br><br>
I don't know if it is of any help but I did want to reach out.
 

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This sounds like my son who was just diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome and sensory integration disfunction.<br><br>
Has your friend had him evaluated? I would encourage that.
 

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Emmas2hearts, I would love to hear more about your son. You can pm me if you want...thanks!
 

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Sounds like a high functioning Autistic. And there are a fair number of related disorders that share these traits. Emmas2Hearts son's diagnoses are related to Autism. I'm posting this but I'm thinking it won't be very helpful to you.... surely the doctors involved have thought of this. It gets so much publicity these days...
 

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The behavioral/language symptoms sound like Asperger's/high-functioning autism to me, and you should definitely have your friend look into these. Most people hear the word "autism" and immediately think "Rainman," but there is actually a wide spectrum of autism, and some of us (yes, us) can even get through our entire childhoods without a doctor or teacher ever noticing, so it wouldn't surprise me if the child's doctors hadn't picked up on it. Is this boy sensitive to loud noises, bright lights, or certain foods? (I know, kids are picky eaters naturally, but many autistic kids are particularly picky when it comes to certain tastes or textures.)<br><br>
As far as the physical stuff goes...I'm not sure about that. Of course, I'm no expert.
 

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Thanks...I've always felt that he has an autism spectrum disorder, too. I'm relatively familiar with the different diagnoses, from autism to Asperger's to PDD. I was curious to see if anyone here had a child who had similar behaviors.<br><br>
This friend has been directed to an autism center for evaluation but does not seem to want to go through with the evaluation. I hope she changes her mind - there's only so much helpful advice I can offer before I step over that line, KWIM?
 

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Sounds like an ASD. The drooling is very common with Mercury Toxicity. My son did this extensively, we kept bibs on him for many years.<br><br>
She may consider running a hair analysis to check for toxins. Many ASD kids are improving with chelation. My son included.
 
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