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What exactly IS retraction?

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Ok, ds had his 4 month check up (at almost 5 months). I love his doctor because he is so down to earth etc. He is anti-circ, pro-breastfeeding. VERY good doctor!!! Anyways, his doctor yesterday pulled the foreskin back just a TINY TINY TINY bit....said that the foreskin was still connected to the gland (?) and that it would seperate when he is 2. Then he told me that the only way I have to clean it is by washing the outside...and the body takes care of the rest which I agree to. The one time that I had to stop a doctor is when a different doctor actually wanted to FULLY retract him. So my question....did this doctor do anything wrong or no??? Sorry, I'm just not sure!

TIA
Angela

ETA. Sorry I meant to say that the doctor said that the foreskin usually seperates from the gland at 2, but can sometimes take as long as 4, 5, 6 years old and not to worry.
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Doesn't sound like it to me. I think it's best if they leave it alone all together but if he didn't force the forskin back (up the shaft) then it doesn't sound like it was retracted. Especially if he was telling you that it was connected to the gland and not to retract it. And age two is not necessarily when it will seperate, it may take a little longer and that's normal as well.
Sorry I didn't mean to put 2 years old. He said that it USUALLY seperates at 2, but can sometimes take as long as 4, 5, 6 years and not to worry about it.
I think we should stop saying 'retraction' and say 'foreskin manipulation' instead. No one should be messing with his foreskin, even if they are gentle. They do not know how far back it can go comfortably so they shouldn't mess with it.
I don't think he should be pulling it back even a microscopic amount. He has no idea just when that will hurt your ds. And at 4 months realy just what is his point? 99% of boys will be fused at that age, so of course it was still conected!
: Also hes totaly wrong to say seperation 'usualy occurs at 2
but sometimes can take as long as 4,5,6 years' There is nothing 'usual' about 2, most boys are still fused then. Also his emphises of 'as long as 4,5,6 years' makes it sound like thats on the upper end of normal when I believe 3-5years is often the age of seperation, but it may still be fused long after 6 years of age, even into puberty.
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You know, the next time I'd make sure he doesn't touch your ds's penis. My ds is almost 2 and his dr has never touched his penis, there is no reason to.
Retraction is any amount of force that causes the foreskin opening to stretch at all.

Frank
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Originally Posted by Frankly Speaking
Retraction is any amount of force that causes the foreskin opening to stretch at all

Really?
My 2 year old ds's well baby exams have always included this type of check. All of the docs in the practice always told us not to try to retract him, etc. They've always given us good information on proper care, basically telling us to leave it alone.

They check my older dd's genital area too so I've always put this "foreskin manipulation" in the same category as that.
ilovemy2ds yes really we had a discussion not long ago about how the word retraction was implying really pulling it back and that we should rephrase it by saying pulling back at all or manipulating it at all. Any movement of pulling back the foreskin falls under retraction and should never be done.

momtokande there is no way they could now how much is to much to pull back a babies skin is so thin that even the smallest amount of pulling back can cause microscopic tears and should never be done. My dd's genitals were looked at but never touched by any dr and I dont think any dr should touch genitals of either gender. Testical exam is ok but once it is established both are were they should be hands off from then on. Stop your dr from doing this it is wrong and can lead to them saying sometime down the road he is still to tight and needs a circ seen it happen to many times if the dr never touches it then this wont happen.

Check out these links and print them off to take and have put in your childs chart AAP Intact Care Guide and AAP intact care agreement

We all have to work to teach the healthcare community the proper care of the intact penis here in the usa since medical school has failed to do so I know we shouldnt have to do it but it is better than letting so many little boys be hurt. hopefully in the near future teaching will change and we will no longer have to live in fear of our children being hurt this way. Until then tho watch like a hawk and protect like a mother bear.
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Originally Posted by mamao'two
I think we should stop saying 'retraction' and say 'foreskin manipulation' instead. No one should be messing with his foreskin, even if they are gentle. They do not know how far back it can go comfortably so they shouldn't mess with it.
I totally agree with this.

Retraction really means moving the foreskin back at all... it's not a term defined or measured in degrees. I think the doc shouldn't have done it at all. I don't think there's ANY good reason for a Doc to manipulate the penis at all, but I also had a REALLY hard time with the groin check on my DD when we were going for Doc visits. I know what they check for, but I just didn't like anyone's hands being down near her privates! I'm SUPER glad that she knows it's HERS and doesn't even like for me to clean her.
She washes her own parts and I only check on them when she says they hurt (usually she's scratched or something equally harmless
).
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