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I'm ten weeks preg with second child. I was under 35 before and didn't do anything beyond the nuchal stuff, but this time doc told me to have appt with genetic counselor. She also said that, while before (with first son) they did not strongly suggest the Eastern European Jewish test for women like moi who are with non-Jewish father to the babe, now they do.<br><br>
My son, besides having viral-induced asthma, is very healthy, and my husband's family doesn't seem to have any history at all of genetic disease. Same with mine.<br><br>
I am open to termination in the case of extremely devastating childhood diseases, but I find it hard to convince myself that I should do all these genetic tests. But maybe it's just because I don't feel like sitting in some office getting a long scary list of possibilities or giving the HUGE amount of blood needed for the Eastern European Jewish test. I didn't do these things for son #1, so it seems weird to do it a couple years later.<br><br>
But I have no idea if I am being foolish so I'm hoping to hear from all of you as to your experiences with this.
 

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none. With #1 I had the cystic frybrosis test, I think, to see if I was a carrier and that was - so I haven't done any since
 

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absolutely dont have the tests if you dont want to. i think the test for jewish ancestory is a simple blood test, tho, very easy.<br><br>
i had the genetic counselling in both pregnancies, both times i was dreading it and both times i was shocked to be soothed by the counseler. i had a different one each time and they actually see their role as reassuring you, not scaring you.<br><br>
i was highish risk, had amnio once and cvs once, and they totally made my pregnancies calmer and saner for me. but i sure understand not wanting to have them either. no right or wrong.
 

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I'll be 40 when this baby's born and opted for all the <i>non-invasive</i> tests, because my insurance covered it all and I was fine with it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I'd rather be prepared just in case, so I like knowing my risk factors, but termination is not something we're comfortable with, so definitely no CVS or amnio. That's a personal decision, obviously, but I was fine with all the blood tests, and with the nuchal fold screen and am having the level 2 ultrasound this week actually.<br><br>
I had some of the tests when I was pregnant with my first child (because I was over 35) but not all. This time it was just convenient honestly, as it was all offered at the same place and I even met with a genetic counselor who went through our family histories, etc.<br><br>
It's quite interesting to me, so I'm okay with it all. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I know some people are very opposed to any ultrasounds, but I'm more along the lines of a little for peace of mind is acceptable to me. Again, that's a personal decision.<br><br>
The blood tests don't bother me at all. It's more of whether it's a convenience or not. It worked out that it was for me, so I had them done.
 

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We didn't do any. We weren't going to terminate, no matter what. I'm a worrier, so false positives could be devastating to my emotional health, and it wasn't worth it.
 

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It's such a personal choice. I am afraid of needles and would not terminate at this point (I am 17 weeks) so I am not having any tests except an ultrasound and basic blood work. I am working on having the right to refuse a pap. Follow your heart and read up and make the choice you are most comfy with.<br><br>
PS I am RH - so another reason for me to refuse CVS and amnio is it increases risk of mine and my baby's blood mixing!
 

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My husband is the carrier for a known genetic disorder. In about 3% of cases, it can affect the newborn with a type of liver cancer.<br><br>
We went ahead with an amnio to screen for this disorder because the screening in the first 3 years of life is intense if you don't know if the baby has the gene or not, or is definately positive. It includes 3 blood tests a year and 2 ultrasounds a year.<br><br>
The amnio wasn't awful, although it felt very invasive, I've gotten over that now. Since my insurance covered it, we had the full genetic screening done (looking for trisomys and other issues) and we've had the blessing to find out that this baby does not have any genetic issues at all! Including the disorder my husband carries.<br><br>
Each family must choose what is appropriate for them. In our case, termination wasn't an option, it was done for future planning.
 

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We tested for Tay-Sachs because we are both decendents of Ashkenazi Jews. I don't recall a huge amount of blood being involved.
 

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I was tested to see if I was a carrier for cystic fibrosis and I have had both the CVS and the amnio (in different pregnancies). It is such a personal decision and I really think people need to stay in their own comfort zones and refrain from judging others who have different ones.
 

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I did the quad screen with DS and the 20w ultrasound, I was 25 and just going along with protocol. With this babe I'm 29 and I'll do the 20w ultrasound, but I'm not doing anything else unless something pops up from the scan.
 

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I will be 38 at delivery. In Canada, I did the IPS test- 2 sets of bloodwork and a ultrasound to show nuchal translucency. For us, I wanted this before deciding on amnio or not. Depending on what the IPS results were, we would decide.<br>
Well- I got my results last week and they brought my chances of Down's from 1/175 to 1/10,000, and Spina Bifida from 1/500 to 1/15000. I was completely happy with the results and decided against any further testing. It is not a 100% test, more like 80%, with a high rate of false positives. But for me, considering, at best #'s on amnio miscarriage are 1/400 (usually 1/200 is quoted), I wasn't willing to risk it for my #'s.<br>
It is a very personal decision- don't let others sway you. Do what you feel is right for your own situation
 

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I will be 38 at delivery with my first child.<br>
I am not doing any screening other than the 20 week sono.<br>
I will not terminate under any circumstances.<br>
I prefer to not know, as I find that ignorance is bliss as opposed to stressing out about it and going insane (which I know I would do).<br><br>
I will only undergo a test if there is something that can be physically corrected.<br><br>
This decision was based solely on my own personal feelings. I think each person needs to decide for themselves.
 

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We didn't do any. #1 b/c we don't feel we're at high risk for things, #2 b/c we don't feel comfortable with the invasive tests that are used if your risk factors point to having something (like CVS or amnio).
 

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Thanks for all these thoughts! Tonight I had some bleeding so I'm feeling all nervous anyway....<br><br>
Most people I know who have had various tests got so many scares and then in the end the baby had no disease and was totally fine, so I guess that is what I fear, the agony of all the decisions and worry when the tests seem so unreliable in the first stages. I had a miscarriage once and am very fearful of amnio, but it sounds like some of you were not scared of that.
 

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I only got the nuchal fold screening and first round of blood tests. I was really reluctant to do it this time b/c I'm older now and was afraid of what might be found. I got fabulous results (they said my risk of Down S. was that of a 20-yr old <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">) and decided not to torture myself with more tests that might bring more worry--even though it would increase the accuracy of the previous tests by 4%.<br><br>
I think you should definitely follow your heart/intuition on the testing because sometimes the testing causes lots of unnecessary worry and intervention.
 

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I understand you are open to termination however ask yourself how long it would take to get these results and would you still be open to termination at 15 or 20 weeks.<br><br>
I was 37, almost 38 when I had #5 and had ZERO testing.
 

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I did not have the NT scan but decided on having the quad screen. My reasoning was that I'm already high risk and had weekly ultrasounds in first trimester. I didn't want another ultrasound if I didn't need it! Since I'm technically AMA too, I was offered the genetic testing with the specialist. I declined. I only did the quad screen since it was a simple blood test and I could have it done in my OB's office. My OB did warn me that the specialists think of the worse case senario too, and I didn't see any reason for all that worry. (Plus, I've had a slew of testing due to recurrent pregnancy loss so I thought it might be nice to avoid some testing!)<br><br>
As it turned out, the trisomy 18 test came back "positive," which was a 1 in 31 chance for me. So, I was referred anyways. The follow-up ultrasound was perfect and it was an easy decision to not do the amnio. (50% of babies with trisomy 18 die before they're born and the majority who make it die soon after. So, it's hardly like Down's Syndrome where there is a healthy kid who can have a good quality of life). I was going to have to see a high risk dr anyways due to my insulin issues and clotting disorder. By "failing" the quad screen, other things moved faster. I thought I had been tested for all clotting disorders but hadn't. I'm starting heparin shots today as a result of one being newly discovered.<br><br>
So, though going to a specialist didn't really effect me in the end with birth defects, something extra that could cause problems was found. I feel very fortunate to have had that "positive" screen since now I'm getting help I didn't realize that I needed.
 

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Evie-<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> I was scared out of my mind! I've had 8 miscarriages, all of them were first trimester. But it was still better for ME to go through with it, rather than putting a newborn through a lot of unnecessary tests.<br>
If he'd ended up being postive, then we'd have done the tests for a very good reason.<br><br>
It was the right choice for our family. Everyone has to make their own choices. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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