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My next door neighbor is on a rampage against the dog across the street, which does display some frightening behavior sometimes. We've asked the neighbors with the dog to please keep their dog on a leash (there is a leash law here) but until recently, they would agree to keep him leashed but after a few days he'd be running loose again.<br><br>
My neighbor, who is on the rampage, really laid into them about a week ago, because the dog charged her little dogs as she was out walking them. Since then they have kept their dog leashed. Before they started not letting him run loose we had called animal control and they just now came out and met with the neighbor on a rampage (not the neighbor who owns the dog yet).<br><br>
I'm willing to let things be now that they seem to be keeping the dog leashed, but my neighbor wants to pursue having the dog labeled a "viscious" dog by animal control. She wants me to fill out an affidavit about the problems we've had with the dog before even though currently it seems there are no problems. I'm not sure that the dog is "viscious," although he is kind of frightening (he comes into our yard to poop. When DH yells at him, he lowers his head, the fur on his back stands straight up, his tail tucks between his legs, and he slinks off sideways, growling. I think he COULD attack because he seems so fearful. But he lives with young children and the neighbors say he is great with the kids and they do not believe he is dangerous.<br><br>
When animal control determines that a dog is "viscious," what does that mean? Does it mean the dog would be put down? Or will it just mean that the family MUST keep him contained at all times? I'm not sure I want to contribute to having him put down if that is what it means. I just want them to keep him contained. The family, and the children, really seem to love the dog, even though they have been rather irresponsible in letting him chase the cats, poop in other people's yards, and knock over other people's trash cans.
 

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I think the best bet for information would be calling animal control yourself and asking. You don't need to tell them what dog it's in reference to.
 

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OT: I'm sorry, but I read your thread title as What happens to a viscous dog. (That <span style="text-decoration:underline;">is</span> a problem.) Carry on!
 

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Just going by your description of the situation, I can understand your hesitance, but it also sounds like there certainly is potential for a serious problem in the future. In this situation, I would consider speaking very honestly with animal control and making sure to emphasize your doubts about whether or not the dog is vicious and let them decide. If you are very honest, that is all you can and, IMO, should do.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Just going by your description of the situation, I can understand your hesitance, but it also sounds like there certainly is potential for a serious problem in the future. In this situation, I would consider speaking very honestly with animal control and making sure to emphasize your doubts about whether or not the dog is vicious and let them decide. If you are very honest, that is all you can and, IMO, should do.</div>
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That sounds like the best plan for action, but I would like to add... this is not to say that the dog is vicious, but just because he lives with small children and is good with them doesn't mean that you should let your guard down about safety around this dog. The children in his family are his pack. He knows them and knows they won't harm him. The fact that he shows fear aggression towards your Husband, tells me that, if you or one of your children scared him, or even your Husband, is he's scared enough, he may choose fight over flight. Not to say that he is vicious and that it will definately happen, but to say, don't let your guard down. It sounds like his family needs to work with Animal Control to figure out the dog's needs, be it training, socialization, confinement (although, confinement is usually the worst thing you want to do!), or whatever.
 

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I do that in AC will put a "vicious" dog down, but I'm not sure how they determine that. My best friend is a dog trainer and has worked a lot with the SPCA so she might know. I will call her and ask her after it's no longer the crack of dawn. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That sounds like the best plan for action, but I would like to add... this is not to say that the dog is vicious, but just because he lives with small children and is good with them doesn't mean that you should let your guard down about safety around this dog. The children in his family are his pack. He knows them and knows they won't harm him. The fact that he shows fear aggression towards your Husband, tells me that, if you or one of your children scared him, or even your Husband, is he's scared enough, he may choose fight over flight.</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nod.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nod"> There is a dog like this a few houses down from me. She's already nipped my hand once when I came to the door. It was completely unprovoked, even from normal, stabile dog perspective. She seems to behave well enough around the 3 children who live with her, but starts snarling when anyone else approaches. Unfortunately, her people don't take it seriously and I often find her wandering in the street in front of the house. There isn't a single doubt in my mind that she would do some serious damage to a child who wandered into her territory, even if she's good with her pack.<br><br>
I agree with tayndrewsmama. Good advice there.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">OT: I'm sorry, but I read your thread title as What happens to a viscous dog. (That <span style="text-decoration:underline;">is</span> a problem.) Carry on!</div>
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I kept looking and looking at "viscious" - knowing something didn't look right. I don't think its a word at all. Luckily you mindreaders knew what I really meant.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I kept looking and looking at "viscious" - knowing something didn't look right. I don't think its a word at all. Luckily you mindreaders knew what I really meant.</div>
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She just has it spelled wrong...it's vicious.<br><br>
I second calling up the ac office and getting information/advice.<br><br>
I would think they would have to have multiple reports filed before the dog would be labeled.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I would think they would have to have multiple reports filed before the dog would be labeled.</div>
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Yes... I think that's why my neighbor is trying to get me to write an affidavit (along with the neighbors on the other side, too), so there are multiple reports filed.<br><br>
I guess I'll just wait 'til animal control is open tomorrow and give them a call to find out what haappens when a dog is considered "vicious."
 

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So I talked to my dog trainer friend. She said that laws vary by city/county and you can most likely find your local laws online by googling "vicious dog code your city". Some citys require only one incident report, some require several. But she also said that in general, as long as the animal has an owner and is not stray, they will try to work with the owner to find a solution for keeping both the animal and the public safe, such as training and/or greater efforts at keeping the dog restrained/contained.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So I talked to my dog trainer friend. She said that laws vary by city/county and you can most likely find your local laws online by googling "vicious dog code your city". Some citys require only one incident report, some require several. But she also said that in general, as long as the animal has an owner and is not stray, they will try to work with the owner to find a solution for keeping both the animal and the public safe, such as training and/or greater efforts at keeping the dog restrained/contained.</div>
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Thank you so much!
 

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If this dog is a risk these people can be sued heavily. I would definately advise they contain the dog properly or get rid of it!
 
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