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what if you NEED your DC out of the bed?

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firstly, let me say how much we LOVE, am in love with, and dream about our quiet stories, our hand-holding, and our goodnight kisses...but after that, our almost 3 year old turns into the world's worst sleeper.....when he was younger (ie, smaller) it wasn't a big deal, as his shananigans didn't take up too much space in our queen size mattress...but now he's this really tall, surprisingly strong dude who wants the entire mattress for himself...my husband usually sulks upstairs to sleep on the loft couch, and i'm sleeping on about 7 inches of mattress....

it stinks.

and we're tired.

we've accepted the less-intimacy thing, the working around our arrangement with family members who watch him at night...everything. but now....now we just want to rest our bodies.

any ideas? a magical CD to lull them to sleep? hypnosis? a fairy prince that comes to him in his sleep and lets him know it's OK to sleep by himself?

we don't want to have to stop our since-birth co-sleeping--or buy another mattress...he's slept in his bed before (gradually stepped up to 'big boy' status at his request), mainly for naps...but at night there is a necessity for contact to fall asleep.

hoping this makes sense....we seem to be fairly foggy brained these days.

TIA

kyara
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Kyara,
I have had a similar situation. We had to make room for new baby.
Do you have room for another matress or cot in your room? We ended up doing a mattress on the side of our bed and after a while getting a toddler to twin bed from Ikea and leaving it in our room. By the time the new baby was outgrowing our bed and ready for the toddler bed the other child was asking to be with the big kids in their room. This has worked for us. I know it is not totally co sleeping, but without a huge bed it is too hard to get sleep. I think that co-sleeping is about family harmony and if DH is not able to sleep that is NOT harmony! Hope this helps.
Wishing you peacful sleeping
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Im sorry I am foggy brained too.
I just noticed that you said you did'nt want him in a new mattress. I am sorry I don't have much solution for that then.
Hope someone will have an idea
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No Cry Sleep Solution for Toddlers (or preschoolers? I forget the actual title of the book.) I absolutely loved the baby edition, and she has lots of great ideas!
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ahhh mama i feel you. I think that what we did was put dd to bed on her own, at that age, then whenever she woke up at some point to nurse, take her in with us. That way we got all the cuddle time and intimacy we needed, but still could enjoy the closeness of cosleeping.
Can you put his big-boy bed right next to yours? That way he still knows you're right there but he is in his own space.
you gals are so sweet--thanks for the ideas....we do have a teeny tiny house, and another bed wouldn't work in our "master" bedroom


i think this may be one for the books.....will definitely try the no-cry solution...the worst thing is, i can't even imagine him sleeping somewhere else!

thanks again
cheers
kyara
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the worst thing is, i can't even imagine him sleeping somewhere else!

well pantley will tell you that transitioning him out of your bed won't work then. she asks you to ask yourself, if dc got up and walked to his own bed tomorrow, how would you feel? in my own case, i would be heartbroken. which i think means it's not time for us to move away from the family bed.
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Originally Posted by PiePie View Post
well pantley will tell you that transitioning him out of your bed won't work then. she asks you to ask yourself, if dc got up and walked to his own bed tomorrow, how would you feel? in my own case, i would be heartbroken. which i think means it's not time for us to move away from the family bed.
You know, I'm gonna go ahead and offer another take on that. I think some parental decisions are just bound to be fraught with ambivalence--but that doesn't mean that you aren't making the best decision for your family. When your children first go to school, that's bound to be an emotional time for you as a parent (maybe that's a bad example if you're a homeschooler, but I'm sure there are parallels there!) yet you know that it's part of your child growing up. I was so sad and guilty and worried when I first went back to school (part time!) yet I knew that my little girl would be alright (she loves her time with grandma) and that it was what I had to do.

I'm not saying that you must definitely move your son out if you are truly not ready. But I just think that you can feel a little sad about it but still know that it's the right decision.

As a side note, we moved our daughter into a crib when she was 6months old but since that time she moves into our bed when she first gets up, which is anywhere from, say, 11pm to like 2am. I read the No Cry Sleep Solution and found it very helpful.
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Not magic, but type "relax kids" into the search box on itunes
Good for the giving-up naps phase.

There's a win-win solution in here. Your DS wants physical contact, you want enough space to sleep in and your DH wants space to sleep in. He has a big boy bed, you have a queen. How can you arrange these two beds to provide everyone with the restful night you deserve?
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you guys are totally right--and now i don't feel too braindead as i've had some of the same thoughts....DH and I are going to rehab our floor plan a bit, tomorrow night, to see if his bed would fit somewhere in our room...i'd hate to just put a mattress on the floor, since the draft in our winter, practically no-heat house can be nasty down there....another friend did mention that her three year old son was able to be reasoned with, and they had large success with, "if you want to be next to mama/papa, you can curl up here next to our bed in a sleeping bag".....slightly militant, yes, but this may work for our boy who HAS slept at night, all the way through, in his own bedroom before.

as for the music aspect, we've asked for some bedtime discs and a mini CD player for his christmas present....that may be the icing on the cake--"big boy music stuff"

hmmm....all of this transitioning....it does make me wonder if sometimes, sometimes this longterm AP thing isn't right for a society that doesn't inherently hold this as a sociocultural standard....

(said very lightly, so no flaming please!)

thanks again, everyone!
cheers
kyara
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We pushed a twin beside the queen when time called.

MIL asked me this past Turkey day "so, you're still sleeping with the kids in bed?"

I gladly told her, "Yes we are."


If you wish to cosleep past toddler age, it can be done. The real question is are you and dh willing to? There's no doubt that we won't be transitioning the kids over the next year or so. They, like us, would prefer a lot room while they sleep. We have started to talk about this. Since we moved late this past summer, we didn't want to start right away. So we told them that after the New Year (and X-mas), they would be getting a new bed. While it's not a surprise, I expect some transition, aka, they wind up in our bed. However, the point is that we are willing to work through that so they are comfortable in their new surroundings. Not totally child led, but we are attempting to support them (remain attached) during this new phase. No different than potty learning or learning about the addition of a new sibling to the family.
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