[roadfamily6now]

If DH was there to help, is that still a UC??

A UC is just when there are no medical personal/midwives around to help??

 

[rajahkat]

Yes

 

[SublimeBirthGirl]

IMO, yes.

 

[cottonwood]

That's the most common definition of it.

 

[eviesingleton]

What if your DP is an OB or midwife or a nurse?

 

[crissei]

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Originally Posted by eviesingleton What if your DP is an OB or midwife or a nurse?

If they are "acting" as a OB or Midwife, then it is not a UC. If they are there as your partner, it is. JMO

 

[accountclosed3]

if they act as an ob, midwife, or nurse during the birth--thta is, they assist in the birth process--then the birth is not unassisted.

if they do not act as an assistant, then it is unassisted.

 

[accountclosed3]

ooh, we posted at the same time!

 

[crissei]

jinx

 

[Marlet]

UC is birth without a paid "professional" (of any kind ) present. At least that's the most common definition.

 

[eviesingleton]

What if the mother is an OB, midwife, or nurse and her educational training becomes confused with her intuitive processes?

If that is the case, can she bill the insurance company and get money?

I'm evil. Please ignore me.

 

[roadfamily6now]

lol, you are evil!

THanks for the replies! I just had to make sure, did not want to look like a fool

 

[accountclosed3]

UC is largely about a woman leading the process of birth, without having others assist her in that process. This does not preclude the rational mind.

many UCers have a great deal of knowledge about birth, complications, recognizing and managing complications on their own. this the rational process isn't a detriment to the mother in the unassisted birthing context. that is, the process isn't necessarily wholly intuitive for any given mother (it can be, but isn't necessarily).

if she is leading the process, regardless of her training, without intervention or assistance from another, then she is UCing.

 

[~Kristina~]

What if a midwife is on the couch knitting and doesn't attend to you until after the birth? I really want to have a UC, but there is no way dh would go for, but would let me do my own thing and delivery myself if a midwife was atleast available if complications arise.
(I had a PPH with our last child and he was present for the entire thing and it scared the crap out of him)

Would this be considered a UC, or just a hb? Darn husbands!

 

[mom3b1?]

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Originally Posted by roadfamily6now If DH was there to help, is that still a UC?? A UC is just when there are no medical personal/midwives around to help??

I think so. To me it seems that a birth without professional help is an UC. Some folks hae an Unassisted Birth after an Assisted Pregnancy, and some have no assistance at all. You've got to choose what's right for you. Some people like friends and family around, some don't. I like one person around, but not there for 99% of the time, just a minute here and there spread through the process.

Kiley

 

[mom3b1?]

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Originally Posted by ~Kristina~ What if a midwife is on the couch knitting and doesn't attend to you until after the birth? I really want to have a UC, but there is no way dh would go for, but would let me do my own thing and delivery myself if a midwife was atleast available if complications arise. (I had a PPH with our last child and he was present for the entire thing and it scared the crap out of him) Would this be considered a UC, or just a hb? Darn husbands!

I think you should have the birth you want, and not worry about what to call it.

The trouble with hiring a MW to do nothing, is that they rarely can do that. Sometimes they are constrained by law, or their own idea of birth to do things that you might not want like:

Monitor the babies heartbeat
check dilation
induce or send you to the hospital if you don't go into labor by X weeks
send you to the hospital if your placenta doesn't come out in X time
perform medical tests during pregnancy

And the list can go on and on. If you find one who'll really sit and knit, and you want one who will really just sit and knit I think you could have a great situation!

Kiley

 

[cottonwood]

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Originally Posted by ~Kristina~ What if a midwife is on the couch knitting and doesn't attend to you until after the birth?

The term "unassisted birth" as popularly used is a bit of a misnomer. It means birth not attended by a medical professional. What's more, it doesn't necessarily mean literally unassisted.

So no; while your birth may be literally unassisted if you hire a midwife to attend you, it is not a "UC".

 

[Jenlaana]

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Originally Posted by fourlittlebirds The term "unassisted birth" as popularly used is a bit of a misnomer. It means birth not attended by a medical professional. What's more, it doesn't necessarily mean literally unassisted. So no; while your birth may be literally unassisted if you hire a midwife to attend you, it is not a "UC".

While I agree with this, it shouldn't keep you from having a great birth with a midwife sitting on the couch knitting. Personally, I would have no problem with that kind of midwife birth.

One reason why I wouldn't see this as an unassisted birth is because, in the event of trouble, you would have a midwife doing midwife things. Thats not bad, but its different. With a UC, you take all of the responsibility for handling not only a good birth, but a bad birth, without the aid of a "medical professional". There is a responsibility and a ... weight... to UC, that I don't find in other kinds of birth. Its hard to describe any better than that. Its not a slam on other kinds of birth by far, but its just something about birthing without anyone else there to fall back on if you need help or answers or even just the reassurance of a "knowledgeable professional".

That make sense?

 

[mrskennedy]

I think it would be weird to have a DP who was an OB, midwife, or nurse... Plus it would be strange for them too, more sense of responsibility for you and baby, most likely. Also, if something went wrong, DP would blame himself/herself, and perhaps the courts would too, even if DP was supposedly not acting as a medical professional. If I had a DP who was one, I wouldn't let him be at the birth, and if I needed a medical pro, I'd call another one--an outsider who didn't have so much invested in the birth (emotions, time, relationship, etc). JMO of course.

 

[cottonwood]

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Originally Posted by Jenlaana While I agree with this, it shouldn't keep you from having a great birth with a midwife sitting on the couch knitting. Personally, I would have no problem with that kind of midwife birth.

My second was like this, and it was a great birth.

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There is a responsibility and a ... weight... to UC, that I don't find in other kinds of birth. Its hard to describe any better than that. Its not a slam on other kinds of birth by far, but its just something about birthing without anyone else there to fall back on if you need help or answers or even just the reassurance of a "knowledgeable professional".

Right. And it's not that it necessarily make it better, it just makes it a different kind of thing. Another difference is just in the feel of having a hired professional observing as opposed to someone you're normally intimate with. Again, one is it not necessarily better than the other (depends on your needs and desires) but it's a different kind of thing, and will affect the birth differently.