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As many of you know, there is a Diaper Fairy list here at MDC, which was a spin-off of the Fairy list.<br><br>
Cynthia has asked input from people on the list. Please share any thoughts you have on the Diaper Fairy list.<br><br>
Things that have been mentioned:
<ul><li>an "expiration" date on being on the list (You would just renew to help keep the list manageable.)</li>
<li>an increase in minimum requirements</li>
<li>ways to spread the love/make fair
<ul><li>I.E. Remove a person from the list once she has been fairied. But being able to resubmit. "One of the stipulations we set is that the list be open to everyone. With fewer givers than receivers it makes sense that a person should get once and step back for the next person on the list to receive. Or perhaps I'm not understanding the way the list has been operating? Are members picking and choosing who they fairy and who they don't?" -CM</li>
<li>Move them to the back of the line</li>
<li>an expiration date</li>
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<li>wiping clean the current list and asking everyone resubmit info</li>
<li>"No specific requests other than size and need (such as asking for a soaker or a diaper). Allergies may be a problem for some but I think opening that door might be a mistake." -CM</li>
<li>"There should be a Thank you thread. Mommies who agree to be fairied should agree to post their thank yous on that thread. Sure, you can't force anyone but maybe a friendly reminder it is kind of rude not to say thanks..(In our helper thread I asked that the thanks be in that thread and not separate primarily because the thank yous usually inspired more helpers.. and also it was for a short amount of time. In this case the fairy list is on going....that's why I would suggest it is own thank you thread.)" -Tracy</li>
<li>A section where applicants could express financial hardship so a person wanting to fairy a person in need could request someone who really needs some help.</li>
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I did pull some quotes in from <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=237629&page=6&pp=10" target="_blank">this thread.</a> I thought they were worded better than I wrote them out <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"><br><br>
Any thoughts of these ideas? Or any other ideas? Thanks for your input.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/heartbeat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="heartbeat"><br>
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I think the expiration date is an excellent idea, to keep the list manageable. As long as a renewal notice is posted, it should work just fine.<br>
We have been picking and choosing who we fairy and I liked that...the idea of just rotating names is kind of nice because everyone will get fairied, but it wasn't supposed to be a "join up, get a free diaper" kind of guarantee.<br>
I mean making it "fair" is a sweet idea, but I think that takes a bit of the fun out of it. When I fairy someone, it's for a specific reason. It's not just my online 'friends', but it's not just a random person either. I like that because I can get them something specific that I know they will use/like. I think people who are reasonably active in this forum can expect the fairy to visit sometime...there are a lot of people on that list who are never here anymore or weren't very much at all (I think there are people who joined, posted etc just to get on said list, as snarky as that sounds).<br>
I think a lot more people were getting fairied, honestly, when we could post about it in Diapering. I'm not saying you need to rethink the Fairy forum, but them's the facts.<br>
I do think people shouldn't be requesting specific items unless it's a really important thing (like allergy to PUL or something) because that's not the idea.<br>
Obviously people should be saying thank you.<br>
I guess you're right about the financial hardship thing. That would make sense.<br>
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sounds good to me. i agree with it all<br>
as for the alrergy thing i know ive seen tons of posts saying the fairy wants to know.... so if the post say a pul cover than someone whos child shouldnt reply. lol then again i know that alot of times people just randomly fairy. ive never been on the list though so im not 100% certain on rules and what not
 

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I definitely think we should resubmit our info, and I like the idea of an expiration date with renewal option to keep the list manageable. I think we should be able to continue to pick and choose who we fairy, and I also think if we're picking, we probably already have a good idea of what that person wants or needs, so there isn't really a need to put requests other than for size on the fairy list, especially if that will make it harder to manage.<br><br>
Besides, if you do receive something your baby is allergic to, you can always fairy it to someone else.<br><br>
I don't like the idea of being kicked off the list after being fairied; being moved to the back of the line wouldn't be so bad, but I think that would make the list harder to manage. Just because you request someone's info doesn't mean you're going to actually fairy that person, and writing back to say "yes I fairied her" or "yes I was fairied" seems like an awful lot of extra work for the person managing the list. I DO like the idea of having a "Thank you diaper fairy!" thread for everyone to post in, and that could do double duty because then if someone really wanted to give to someone who had never been fairied, she could just check the "thank you" thread.<br><br>
I, too, wish this section could be moved into Diapering. I think it's much more closely related to Diapering than it is to the TP, and I think there would be a lot more action if more of the target audience could see it.<br><br>
I hope my opinions help!
 

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P.S. I think if we do decide to allow specific requests for items on the fairy list, and people start getting greedy and requesting only fancy expensive things, then they are less likely to get fairied and that's their problem, not the list manager's.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"> thanks, mamas!
 

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If there was a way to make it so... I would love to see the fairy list done sort of like the helper thread - where the person coordinating was the one contacted when someone had something they wanted to fairy, that way the coordinator could make sure that everyone on the list got fairied, that people with urgent need got put closer to the top of the list, and that the list rotated appropriately. I was going to suggest a way to keep track of the number of times fairied, but that seems way too public.
 

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Joy, Please share. Perhaps it can be modified to be more private. I would love to hear your thoughts.<br><br><br>
Thanks so much for your input.
 

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I think all of those are good suggestions. The only one I can think of right now is making it more noticable. It's pretty tucked away from sight back here <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> :LOL
 

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Kate, that is a good point. Perhaps we just need to raise awareness <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Thanks!
 

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Any more thoughts? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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I dont like the idea of it being a list that you move down the names on... so that you could not pick and choose who you wanted to fairy. I mean sometimes mamas have things that they do not care who they go to, but sometimes I may have something specific for a certain person that I know needs it, kwim ? It also makes updating and managing the list harder if you are moving names around, going down a list, etc. I always thought the fairy list was really just kind of a "database" of peoples addresses so that if you had something thought someone might like you could request their address. I liked how simple it was.... I'm not sure people would like it if it were more than that and if they had no choice as to who things went to, kwim? For example... say Mama A - posted on the diapering board about how she was having such a hard time with diapering at night.... well I just happen to have an awesome night time diaper I am not using anymore so I figure I will send it to her. I like being able to just go to the list and ask for their address and send it to her cause I know she needs it. I think making a list of names that you go down one by one makes it a little less personal <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
you mamas rock for keeping this up! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I really liked being able to choose who to send items to. Also the more specifics in their description the better really! I would hate to send a hemp diaper to someone who couldn't use it! Or whatever.<br><br>
The other thing that I did like about the other list "rules" was that the receiving mama's agreed NOT to sell the items and if they were to get rid of them they needed to Fairy them to another mama. I'm sure it didn't always go that way...but I still think it's a good idea.<br><br>
I do think there were problems with some of the things about the old list. I know there were some on there that got fairied MANY times and others that never did. But I'm not sure moving people down on a list is the way to go either.<br><br>
I'm also one that misses having the Fairy posts on the Diapering Board. I know it got crazy for awhile...but I think there are ways to do it so that it could be there again. Maybe if it was a sticky thread or something?<br><br>
I do think there should be some guidelines about expiration dates (I know I went to fairy some and found out they weren't around any longer, etc) and about joining the list. There definitely were those that came over just to get some freebies - sad but true. But then on the other hand often times it is the newer mama's that may be the ones in need too. Remember however that the old list wasn't just about those "in need".<br><br>
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First off, thanks to all of you who are re-starting this. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"> I can't wait to share some diapering love.<br><br>
I like the idea of names expiring but I think it should be the sole responsibility of the individual to renew their name. I don't think that reminders should be sent out because that is just more work to do. If someone really wants to stay on the list they will make sure they are current.<br><br>
I think while certain requests can get crazy I think it might be a good idea to have certain info like uses only hemp, allergic to PUL, etc.<br><br>
I agree that we should be able to pick who we want to fairy. What I may have to offer may not be a fit for those at the top of the list.<br><br>
I really would love it if this could be in diapering. I know there was a time when the fairy threads sometimes dominated the diapering forum. I think the idea of having one thread for thank yous is a good solution as well as one thread for those in need. Any thread that does not follow this guideline will be automatically removed. If people can't respect this then it could be reconsidered to move the whole diaper fairy thing back here but I think it would be fair to give it a shot in the diapering forum.<br><br>
Again, thanks for doing all of this. I imagine it is a LOT of work and please let me know if you need any help.
 

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<span style="color:#800080;">My $.02...</span><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
*an "expiration" date on being on the list<br><span style="color:#800080;">LOVE this idea!</span> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
*an increase in minimum requirements<br><span style="color:#800080;">Another great idea! Plus I think active participation on the boards should be included. Even shy mamas who don't want to post much can put in a "lurk" smilie, or such.</span> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
*ways to spread the love/make fair:<br>
*Move them to the back of the line<br><span style="color:#800080;">If there's an expiration date, then I think this is a better idea than having them removed from the list, because the expiration date would remove them automatically anyway. The only problem I have with moving people to the end is in case of need, like meco's stolen car. If there's a case of need more mamas may want to fairy the same person. (but I suppose they could do that through PMs too...)</span><br><br>
*wiping clean the current list and asking everyone resubmit info<br><span style="color:#800080;">Might as well, since it's been a while since the list has been open.</span><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
*"No specific requests other than size and need (such as asking for a soaker or a diaper). Allergies may be a problem for some but I think opening that door might be a mistake." -CM<br><span style="color:#800080;">I disagree, I think it's important to ask for allergy information because allergies are something to take seriously. Besides, it's not much fun to recieve something you can't use, and could actually be an expense for the fairied mama to have to fairy it off again. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> I also think it's fair to ask for preferences in material (OC vs hemp) or print (G, B, GN) and let the mama decide how specific she wants to be. The more picky a mama is the longer she may have to wait to be fairied because if a fairy has a boy hemp and the top name requests only OC girly, the fairy would go to the next name on the list, and the next, until there's a match... seems fair to me.</span><br><br>
*"There should be a Thank you thread. Mommies who agree to be fairied should agree to post their thank yous on that thread. Sure, you can't force anyone but maybe a friendly reminder it is kind of rude not to say thanks...<br><span style="color:#800080;">Definitely!!! In fact, I'd suggest that mamas who don't say thanks after a certain number of times being fairied should be taken off the list. It doesn't take long to type a quick thank you, and even a late thanks is better than none at all.</span><br><br>
*A section where applicants could express financial hardship so a person wanting to fairy a person in need could request someone who really needs some help.<br><span style="color:#800080;">I think that's a good idea too.</span> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
Or any other ideas?<br><span style="color:#800080;">I've never managed anything like this, so maybe I'm way off base, but what about a public spreadsheet? It could record usernames, size, preferences, financial need, and when/how often a mama has been fairied. If it's public I would think there would be less work for the mods to do because fairies could look at the list and see who's requests meet their items, who's in need, who's been faried more than others, who's new, etc. But maybe some mamas wouldn't want their financial needs made public...<br><br>
I'm not sure what a pp meant about having the fairy stuff on diapering. I wouldn't want it on the discussion board, but maybe above by the archives?<br><br>
ITA with the old rules about not selling fairied items too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></span>
 

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I do think there were problems with some of the things about the old list. I know there were some on there that got fairied MANY times and others that never did. But I'm not sure moving people down on a list is the way to go either.</div>
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Good point. Still thinking on this one. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br><br><br>
Thanks for all your insightful ideas. I appreciate it.
 

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thanks, mamas, this has been great. Excellent points. Thanks fro taking the time to offer ideas and opinions.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I've never managed anything like this, so maybe I'm way off base, but what about a public spreadsheet? It could record usernames, size, preferences, financial need, and when/how often a mama has been fairied. If it's public I would think there would be less work for the mods to do because fairies could look at the list and see who's requests meet their items, who's in need, who's been faried more than others, who's new, etc. But maybe some mamas wouldn't want their financial needs made public...</div>
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Amy, good idea, but it would be up to Cynthia of course <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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I thought the same thing. Diaper Fairy posts used to be in Diapering. I think they got overwhelming but also since it was not equal (guessing here) they moved it to the "Giving" area.<br><br>
Cynthia would be able to explain it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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