What Should I Do?

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wsid

Discussion Starter · Apr 2, 2006

Hello everybody,I'm 22 and.. I don't know what to do. I have HPV and I seems to be cured now. My physicians suggested me to do circumcision for any future STDs and other hygienical stuff...bla bla. I mention that one of my physicians is from Iran, where circumcision is made at large scale, but I live in a country where only 0,2% of the male population is circumcised. I know circumcision is not mandatory and there are a lot of other ways not to get in trouble. So, is there anyone there who can advise me? I expect to see replies from people that were circumcised when they were adults and can tell what are the differences in the sexual life. I expect sincere opinions... Cheers!

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Daisyuk

· #2 · Apr 2, 2006

Don't do it, and change your doctor. Anyone who advocates circumcision as a preventative for any std is a quack and needs reporting. There is a reason why the USA with the highest circumcised adult population in the Western world also has the highest std rates, it doesn't look like all their cutting has helped them much does it? It looks like circ'd men lose so much sensitivity that they really have problems with using condoms.

The only sure way to prevent stds is to not have sex or monogamous sex with an std free partner, the next best thing is to wear a condom, whether you're circumcised or not.

LavenderMae

· #3 · Apr 2, 2006

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Originally Posted by Daisyuk
The only sure way to prevent stds is to not have sex or monogamous sex with an std free partner, the next best thing is to wear a condom, whether you're circumcised or not.

: Circumcision will NOT keep you from getting STD's. Be safe!!

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pdx.mothernurture

· #4 · Apr 2, 2006

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: I have HPV, and I know for a fact it came from a circumcised partner, since that's all I've ever had. Foreskins don't cause HPV; circumcision doesn't prevent STDs.

There have been studies that have shown adult circumcision being associated with early impotence and other sexual problems, I'm sure someone (Frank?) has a link.

It's my understanding that initially, after circumcision, there's a period of time where sexual activities can feel really intense, if not painful...but over time, the novelty wears off, the glans dries out, and the skin thickens (keratinization)...progressively decreasing sensation.

Jen

calicokatt

· #5 · Apr 2, 2006

Sunflowermommy, your signature just made me cry!

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morning glory

· #6 · Apr 2, 2006

I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on tv...but when my sons are old enough to have to worry about stds I intend to recommend condoms or abstinence, not surgery. I think your Dr. has given you bad advice.

Women get HPV as well. Amputative surgery is never recommended for them as far as I am aware. Ask yourself if you deserve the same quality of care that a woman would get. If you must go back to the same Dr. I would point this out and ask what he recommends to women in your situation.

Casey

Frankly Speaking

· #7 · Apr 3, 2006

HPV is a very common infection and in one form or another, approximately 2/3 of the population has been infected at one time or another. 97% - 98% of those infected with HPV will develop a natural immunity against it. There are many forms of HPV with only a few manifesting symptoms. Because of this, I'm assuming that you have the form that manifests as genital warts. Circumcision will not benefit you at all if this is the type you have. At this point, you can only manage it with available medications. Circumcision will have no effect and will not lessen the severity or frequency of the episodes.

There is potentially some good news. A vaccine has been developed for the strain that causes cervical cancer in females and penile cancer in males called Gardisil by Merck Pharmaceuticals. A vaccination may be available eventually for the form you have using the knowledge gained from that product.

wsid

Discussion Starter · #8 · Apr 4, 2006

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well, I thought that circumcision would solve the probbem with genital warts somehow, because they are located only on my foreskin..so removing it, I still question myself if I can get rid of them... I don't wanna make circumcision and I'll try to keep away from it as much as I can...By the way, thank you very much much for your answers , they really convinced me circumcision is a bad idea,... as for that vaccine,well... that's for prevention of HPV, my problem is that I took the "real HPV vaccine in his alive state "

and I'm struggling against it for months (hope to get 100% cured). And remember, condoms don't protect you efficiently against HPV ( I'm almost sure I took the virus while using condoms). Hope to hear your opinions on these words too.
Cheers!

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MCatLvrMom2A&X

· #9 · Apr 4, 2006

well if u are circed then u wont have the warts on ur foreskin but chances are they will then come up on ur glans and shaft not a good trade off in my opinion. Like Frank said circ will NOT get rid of the HPV and it is not a preventative to getting it again in the future. Nothing is fool proof were STD is concerned except of course abstanance and being with 1 partner u know is STD free. Have u stopped by the resource sticky at the top of the page and gone thru the links there of how the foreskin works and what exactly u would be loosing if u were circed? U should definatly check that out before u sacrifice 30% of the pleasure ur foreskin provides.

Microsoap

· #10 · Apr 4, 2006

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Originally Posted by Sheacoby

: Circumcision will NOT keep you from getting STD's. Be safe!!

I wish you could get those cut-happy scientist doing circumcision studies in Africa to accept this, but more importantly get the CITIZENS of the country to accept this!

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Tofu the Geek

· #11 · Apr 4, 2006

You're correct, condoms don't protect from HPV. The virus is small enough to get through a condom.

You may also get some answers at the Yahoo Group "Picking Up the Pieces". It's a support group for those with HPV and Herpes.

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Frankly Speaking

· #12 · Apr 4, 2006

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well, I thought that circumcision would solve the probbem with genital warts somehow, because they are located only on my foreskin..so removing it, I still question myself if I can get rid of them... I don't wanna make circumcision and I'll try to keep away from it as much as I can.

They will just come up in other areas like the shaft skin, glans or inner mucosal foreskin. You simply can't cut the disease away.

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By the way, thank you very much much for your answers , they really convinced me circumcision is a bad idea,...

As a treatment for genital warts, yes.

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as for that vaccine,well... that's for prevention of HPV, my problem is that I took the "real HPV vaccine in his alive state "

and I'm struggling against it for months (hope to get 100% cured).

Actually, it cures existing cases too. Yes, it is even effective in those already infected! The problem is that to date, there is not a vaccine for the version that causes genital warts but they are working on it.

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And remember, condoms don't protect you efficiently against HPV ( I'm almost sure I took the virus while using condoms). Hope to hear your opinions on these words too.
Cheers!

Those are wise words of advice. HPV is so contagious that condoms don't offer anywhere near fool proof protection. In fact, it is so contagious that there is no fool proof method of completely protecting yourself from infection and sex is not required for transmission. Probably half of those exposed to HPV are virgins.

Frank

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anony

· #13 · Apr 4, 2006

I guess you just gotta be careful who you get into contact with before you start touching, kissing etc. cause apparently it doesn't take intercourse to transmit it. But getting circumcised won't solve the problem and it will create a host of others.

wsid

Discussion Starter · #14 · Apr 4, 2006

And to add something interesting into this thread I would like to tell you that I am trying an alternative and still experimental way of solving warts. I have a physician (not that one with circumcision) that has a blue-light lamp or something like that. If the areas with warts are exposed daily ( 2 minutes per area), it can be observed a regression for big ones and a phenomenon of disappearing/reintegration with the skin for small warts. The psysician said it worked perfectly with genital herpes in only one day and now is trying to see if it works with HPV, too. Well, after I tried it for one week I can truly say that no any other wart appeared and all old ones disappeared. I don't know how long it's gonna have good results. In the case of flu, with throat soreness I can really guarantee you that after 2 minutes of exposure I was surprised to see that the pain really disappeared instantly with no coming back. I don't know what to say, probably the lamp will show up on the market soon as it is in its breveting/patenting state. I tell you very sure that has nothing to do with the Bioptron (polarized light).
Cheers!

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Tofu the Geek

· #15 · Apr 4, 2006

wsid, you could also try going to a classical homepath. It'll likely cost you a few bucks, but should be worth it. My mom went for a wart that was on her hand (not a genital wart I know) that had been cut out by the doctor's 3 times and grew back bigger and badder each time. She had liquid nitrogen used on at least a half dozen times, and nothing worked, this thing was HUGE. She went to the homepath and literally in less than a week of taking the remedy he prescribed, the wart dried up and fell off. It was quite amazing.

pdx.mothernurture

· #16 · Apr 4, 2006

I don't know about phototherapy for HPV, but I do know a year or two ago they did a study (New England Journal of Medicine) that found a compound in *breastmilk* was able to reduce/cure HPV! The compound has been named, "HAMLET".

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in625825.shtml

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5281701/

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...hp?newsid=9880

You can learn more by googling, "HAMLET breastmilk warts".

Interesting, eh?

Jen

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elelvee

· #17 · Apr 5, 2006

Frank. Vaccines do not prevent disease any more than circumcision prevents disease.

trmpetplaya

· #18 · Apr 5, 2006

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Frank. Vaccines do not prevent disease any more than circumcision prevents disease.

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but don't take our word for it... ask MT over at the vaccination board about it. She's a wealth of info!

love and peace.

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Zamber

· #19 · Apr 5, 2006

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but don't take our word for it... ask MT over at the vaccination board about it. She's a wealth of info!

love and peace.

Yes!!!!

Please do Frank!!!

Momtezuma Tuatara will challenge you to think, that's for sure.

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MatrionsRevenge

· #20 · Apr 5, 2006

Its kind of sad this kind of thinking exists. Cause there are plenty of STDs that can sterilize you and cause huge problems. Do to this kind of thinking those men who are circumcised are less likely get it checked out and treated. Meaning there chances of becoming sterile are significantly increased. By a huge margin. If you research sterility here in the US you might just find those numbers I am talking about. Essentially intact guys like us might be the only fertile men on the planet cause allot of us are more cautious when it comes to STDs. At least I am any way. Do to the fact that I not only do not want to be sterile but I don’t want to give into the standard that we are the ones giving all theses STDs to girls. I am more likely to get checked out as a result of all these answers especially the fact that I am supposedly at higher risk of contracting them. Yet again meaning it reduces the chance that the std will sterilize me. It is a extremely disastrous way of thinking for the circumcised man. For there lives and future family they might want to have.

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