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*frequent lurker, infrequent poster here* Ok, so I'm sure some of your are aware of the bias in the "What to Expect" books against natural birthing/attached parenting/breastfeeding but I was just reading through What to Expect the First Year to see if I could find anything helpful for my 3 mo DS who I suspect is teething and was increasingly appalled at the anti-breastfeeding bias in it. I'm sorry if this subject has been covered before but does anyone have any idea why these books are so anti-breastfeeding? Are the published by Nestle or something?<br><br>
For example, there are titles to questions like "Being Tied Down By a Nursing Baby" and this is a direct quote from the answer given for a question regarding going out when exclusively breastfeeding: "Many women, however, have <b>survived</b> the decision and managed to retain some semblance of a social life in spite of it." WTH? Am I crazy or is obviously not helpful to breastfeeding women and the breastfeeding movement??<br><br>
There is a bunch of other lines I could quote that got my blood boiling (including them saying that co-sleeping can work but usually NOT in our culture and then goes on to list all the "problems" associated with cosleeping) but I'll leave you with just this little nugget.<br><br>
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Yes, I tossed my "What to Expect" books (both the pregnancy and the first year) when given them. I know they have incorrect and/or misleading information in them about quite a few things, esp. breastfeeding.<br><br>
Sad that many women consider them to be the "go to" books on pregnancy and babies, isn't it?
 

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Oh yes. I received two of the What to Expect books at my shower. I put them in with my recycling. They are so bad I didn't want to impart any other soon to be moms with their 'wisdom.' <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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With my first pregnancy I treated those books like the "bible" of pregnancy, birth and child-rearing. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: Thank goodness I've become more "enlightened"! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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People keep asking me if I have "What to Expect..."<br><br>
I reply, "I've got all sorts of what-to-expect-during-pregnancy books; you know I'm a big book geek." I just forget to mention that I don't have (or want) THE "What to Expect" book.<br><br>
SO glad I found MDC before getting knocked up. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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For example, there are titles to questions like "Being Tied Down By a Nursing Baby" and this is a direct quote from the answer given for a question regarding going out when exclusively breastfeeding: "Many women, however, have <b>survived</b> the decision and managed to retain some semblance of a social life in spite of it." WTH? Am I crazy or is obviously not helpful to breastfeeding women and the breastfeeding movement??<br><br>
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Frist of all, welcome to the boards!<br><br>
Second, can you post the page number you took this quote from? I have the book and would like to read the section this came from since I don't remember it. It's been awhile! I remember the voice in these books as being very chatty and full of word-play. Thanks.
 

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I am hoping that with my doula training and tendencies to overdo it when it comes to researching everything, that people will know better than to give me that book.<br><br>
Otherwise, I delight in the fantasy of burning it should anyone give it to me.
 

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I'd agree that the "what to expect" books are horrible. They are fear mongering, negative and are effectively a form of textual brainwashing. The amount of useful information is not balanced by the chaff.<br><br>
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This is on page 188 of my edition (it may be old because I got it from a secondhand store). I assure you I re-read it and they are not being facetious in any way! Its in the 3rd month section.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Oh yes. I received two of the What to Expect books at my shower. I put them in with my recycling. They are so bad I didn't want to impart any other soon to be moms with their 'wisdom.' <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:</div>
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This is what I'm going to do with mine - throw them in recycling. There's too much incorrect or "on the fence" information that I don't want to expose others to. I don't see an anti-breastfeeding bias so much as a "hey - formula feeding is just as good" attitude. It's like they really don't want to offend any readers, so they just present half-truths or gloss over contrary facts. I hate that they support CIO as well - although it seems everybody does these days.
 

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So funny! I just threw all three of them away about an hour ago while cleaning off the bookshelves. It was the set of WTEW Your Expecting/the First Year/The Toddler Years.
 

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I can't stand the book. Urg. It's so frustrating to read. I have mine on the bottom shelf so that my dd can tear it up anytime she feels the need to do so <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I am hoping that with my doula training and tendencies to overdo it when it comes to researching everything, that people will know better than to give me that book.<br><br>
Otherwise, I delight in the fantasy of burning it should anyone give it to me.</div>
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I received Babywise at my baby shower a few years back. It was interesting b/c I'd never heard of the book, but half of the young mothers in the room groaned and the other half were effusive about it being a life-saver. Once I read and did my research I was appalled. I didn't know what to do with it: didn't want to sell or donate b/c it was just too awful. So, finally, just recenlty I took great pleasure in throwing it away in a bag of DS's dirty diapers. I figured it belonged in there with the rest of the crap. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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If you are still looking for a book, look for Dr. Sears. The Drs. Sears also have a website. You could also try kellymom.com.
 

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That book series was the first books I got when I was pregnant with Emma. At the time, they were the only pregnancy books I knew of. I got the pregnancy one, the first year one, and the eating while pregnant. All I know is that I regret buying them.<br><br>
After reading all of them, I was so worried at everything during my pregnancy, that I wound up taking the books to the used book store for credit and getting Dr. Sears Pregnancy book, Birth Book and Baby Book. His books were much more positive and reassuring. Heck, the "what to expect book" on eating while pregnant was so strict on their menu plan that there was no way I could follow it. They say that cravings are all in your head and to distract yourself from eating what you crave for the sake of the baby. I don't think any mom can do that very easily. That and the first years and toddler years books are not that helpful when you are trying to exclusively breastfeed a baby and use cloth diapers.<br><br>
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(single mommy to Emma, 4 years and Angela, 2 1/2 years)<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/homeschool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="homeschool">:<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/saynovax.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="no vax"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/goorganic.jpg" style="border:0px solid;" title="go organic">:<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/fly-by-nursing1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Fly By Nursing1"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/learning.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Learning">:<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/slinggirl.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Slinggirl"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/cd.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Cd">:: fambeds2
 

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My aunts all said the "oh, do you have the "What to Expect" book?" as SOON as I got pregnant. My reply: "You know, I've heard of that one. I actually have a book called "The Baby Book" written by a doctor and his wife who is a nurse - and they raised 8 kids! - and it's totally become my bible. Wow! Have you read that one?? THAT's my favourite!"<br><br>
They're impressed because it's by an AAP doctor and a nurse, I'm happy because it actually got one of my aunts to look at AP stuff and say "wow, NONE of this info was available when I had MY kids!" (cha-ching!)
 
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