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OK, so I'm down to the last 3-5 weeks until my baby girl's birth. So now I'm running into this attitude from everyone that "everything will cause cancer and kill us anyway so it doesn't matter what kind of diapers we use". What is this all about? Do people really not care?<br><br>
This is my 3rd child and I've cd all of them. In the past it was mostly about economical and environmental reasons but recently I've been doing research and what I've found on disposable diapers seriously scares the S*** out of me. New studies are linking their use to astma, infertility and endometriosis. Keeping in mind they have only been in popular use 25 or 30 years who knows what they'll find in the future. After all, cigarettes were popular for at least 75 years before my mom was pg with me and she was told that it was perfectly fine for her to continue smoking. As a result I suffered from asthma and allergies. Drinking has been said to be ok too during pg until recently when it's been shown that even a small amount can cause fetal alcohol syndrome. Even now I know lots of moms who make all sorts of excuses why it's ok for them to drink occasionally during pg. My point is that sometimes it takes a long time to discover the effects of something, but it seems like once people know they really don't care. My children are way too precious to me to take that risk. Now my #1 reason for cd has become their health and yes, I've become pretty anal about keeping them in cloth and out of sposies. But how could I live with myself as a mother if I, knowing what I know, didn't do the very best I could for them?<br><br>
And yet, when I tell people this, respectfully of course making sure to point out that these are MY choices and not necessarily the choices of anyone else do I get such a hard time? People tell me I'm over the edge. Even my dh started shouting at me when I told him I planned to bring cd to the hospital to use on our daughter. His attitude is everyone else uses sposies so... Everyone else just keeps telling me that that there are so many things that can harm us, diapers are irrelevant. OK, would they still feel that way in 30 years if it was their son or daughter who was suffering from infertility or asthma? I guess I just don't understand this nonchalance. Have people really become so desensitized for the sake of their own convenience? This attitude really bothers me.<br><br>
Thanks for letting me vent. This is in no way a bash on anyone who chooses to use sposies on their kids - most people honestly haven't done the research to make an informed choice. I just don't understand how the health of our children has taken a back seat to what is easiest for the parents.<br><br>
Jenny<br>
SAHM to Noah (4), Joshua (2), and edd Sarah 10/18/03
 

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I agree, I get the same reaction from people when I tell them I use cloth. I usually get the blank stare and then they ask "Why? What do you do with the poops?" then when I tell them they usually respond "That is gross, why bother when you can use disposables?" "My mother used disposables on me and I turned out just fine...." yadda yadda yadda. Even after I tell them about the silica gels used in sposies!
 

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I have to tell you... it is because of these health issues I decided to use cloth. The environmental and financial benefits were just the cherry on top! I figure there are so many other harmful elements that I have no control over and if I can keep dd away from the chemicals found in disposables the better for her.<br>
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The world is so full of toxic waste right now, that all you can do is make the small every day choices and it all adds up. There is no long-term research on what disposable diapers are doing to our kids and the environment-- I'd prefer not to find out in 20 years that my kids have been damaged by them.<br><br>
I can't buy the attitude of giving up trying because "everything causes cancer. " Small actions add up. It does make a difference to use less and pollute less and choose healthier options.
 

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I think it's sad that people in our society are so disempowered (or lazy?) that they just accept that "everything causes cancer so why bother?"<br>
However, in saying that, I feel it's also related to how our media sensationalizes health information. Everyother day in the news, they report on how "something" causes "something." Much of that health information is based on very poor studies, which can be confusing even to people with scientific backgrounds. I don't get too excited by the latest health scare until I actually get my hands on the study, and can figure out how much weight to give to it. So no wonder everyone just tunes it out.<br>
Regarding cloth dipes, tho', even though the scientific evidence about the health risks of disposables is not strong yet, you're absolutely right - why would you take the chance? Especially when such a wonderful, easy alternative is available! And, to be honest, we'll probably never have good scientific studies on the harms of disposable diapers because no one will fund them, especially given the size and power of the companies that make them.<br>
Stick to your guns, you're doing the right thing for your babies, your grandchildren, and the environment!<br>
..........I'll get off the soap box now!<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/soapbox.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="soapbox">
 

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I've had that comment too. It's so aggrivating! I use cloth because it's healthier for my children and the environment. Someone asked me why I used cloth and my sil chimed in "because they are cheap!" It really ticked me off. Obviously she doesn't know how much some of the diapers I've bought really cost! I think some people are just lazy!
 

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This is my third baby, and the first who will be cded from birth, my second was cded from about 16 months. Since I decided to cd, all I get is negativity - I have gotten the "everything is bad for you..." line, and the "cloth is so difficult (gross, unsanitary) to use" "it's ok to use them at home, but it's too hard to use cloth when you go out" I'm due in 2 months and the other day I told mil I was pretty much ready for the baby, I have almost everything I need, you know what she said? You still need some disposible diapers - Hello? Is anyone listening to me? I'm using cloth, I have tons of diapers. I've gotten to the point that I just ignore them all and I'm satisfied with the fact that I am doing what is best for my family, my children, not to mention the local landfill. We live in a very disposible minded society, why wash something when you can just throw it away? It is very sad really when you think about it. What problems are we creating for our children (or grandchildren) to deal with because of all the "convienience" items on the market?
 

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I get that, too, and I just tell them my true story.<br><br>
I've had 3 kiddos. The first 2 were hospitalized multiple times in their first 2 years with severe asthma episodes. Doctors told me that it was a family history thing, and that I should expect the same from the third. The only thing different with #3 is cloth diapers. We even live in the same house. She has never had so much as an asthmatic symptom. She hasn't even been on antibiotics. Only one small cold that was over in 4 days. I KNOW it is due to the use of cloth. My 3 year old still has severe asthma, and I would do anything to go back and use cloth just to have given her just the possibility of not having to go through all she has gone through because of it.<br><br>
When people say that to me about the poop, I turn the table on them. I say that "it's just poop", and that you end up washing it out of clothes all the time anyway with sposies...what's the difference? That I do a separate load with it? I just get an attitude right back because I know I'm making the right decision for my family, and I won't let anyone try to make me feel any other way.<br><br><br>
Wow, I'm feeling fiesty today, huh...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/af.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="aunt flo">
 

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I decided to CD because of $$$, but the more I began reading about it the more freaked out I became about DD!! I could not believe I did not know all that before!!! The DD companies really do a good job about keeping these researched down! What really makes me scared is that I DD my daughter and my son for 3 years each!!! I so hope nothing will happen with them...<br><br>
Everything about CD is so wonderful that I have become an open advvocate and I have been trying to convert some of my friends. For example, though I much prefer UBCPFs and pins, I bring a couple of pretty AIOs when I have to show them how cute CD can be :LOL You know, some people are afraid of the old fashioned way to CD...<br><br>
Well, at least now my sister stopped buying expensive DD with gel and is now buying the cheap kind. At first she said "the only problem with cheap DD is that I will need to change more often than 5 times. Hey, ait!! it is good to change more often. ins't it? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/duh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="duh">
 

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That attitude is what needs to be burried in a landfill and forgotten about!! 'nuff said, hmpffff!!!!!!
 

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Honestly, I get so tired of arguing with people about my parenting choices that I just leave it at one thing people can't argue with - it's cheaper to CD. I totally respect people who are willing to "evangelize" CDs, extending bfing, etc., but I'm just sick of fighting so I don't anymore.
 

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I agree with you. Even my MIL who had to cd her kids in the 60's thinks disposables are just wonderful because they keep so much wetness away from the baby's skin. "You don't have to wake up with pee-soaked sheets, or change as often". It seems her generation (she's in her 50s) thinks anything that is convenient is better (like 'better living through plastic' from the Graduate). My mom loves anything that comes from a can or freezer pack as in convenience foods. She showed up with the new Gerber tv dinners that are shelf stable and when she opened it (the one with chicken bits and wagon wheels, and soggy green beans) the cat came running. The kid didn't touch it. It really smelled like catfood. They will use whatever diapers I have set out for them. I choose the simplest AIOs for them so that it'll appeal to them a bit more.<br><br>
Using convenience products have their place for occasional "convenient" use, but long term take their toll on the planet, our bodies and our souls. We just can't live on Chef Boyardee and those icky milk-n-cereal bars (I hate that commercial where the ever-busy mom still wants to be a 'good' mom so she throws the bar out the window to the kid on the bus so kid gets a nutritious breakfast). Paper dipes have their place for occasional use, if desired, but we all know at what price that comes. Same with any mass-produced, media-hyped, over-marketed, expensive, disposable product. It can't replace the good feelings of natural cloth, the sensory joy of touching and smelling quality wooden toys, making a nice (though quick and easy) dinner from real, natural, quality foods instead of the 'frankenfoods' full of overcooked, shelf-stable forever, never-rotting, chemicals that are marketed to us as healthy.<br><br>
Can you see why I doh't often evangelize the virtues of CD, along with my other overbearing opinions? Even my closest friends think I'm overkill sometimes. The others nod and go along with it to avoid a soapbox speech. I am often frustrated by being surrounded by so many people who seem to have Borg-like 'groupthink' on anything considered popular or normal these days. To me, normal should equal 'natural', and to be healthy, whole people, we need to consider all choices, or we will have none. It's as if they read it in People Magazine, or Parenting then it must be 'right' and the way 'everyone' does things. I hate when people take the word of the wealthy manufacturer/advertiser as mainstream thought without considering the the interests of the company (profits, of course). Like when our parents and grandparents were told that only poor people breastfed and anyone with social standing fed their babies Nestle from a bottle. Thank god a few free-thinkers knew to see through that lie. Same about using cloth diapers, I think.<br><br>
Anyhoo, I see your frustration, and usually just claim the cost savings (as well as being able to hand them down or sell the lot when you're done with them to further save $), and claim that my child doesn't have rashes at all with cloth. Anything more is a huge can of worms.<br><br>
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I agree with everything you said, Rebecca. That was very well put.<br><br>
In spite of my opinions, like several posters, I also tell people I do it to save money. I fell into this pattern over the years after saying the other benefits and getting bogus arguments back and a general negative attitude about cloth. No one can argue with saving money, so I leave it at that.
 

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This is the one that drives me nutts! Do they not realize that their children are sitting in Pee!
 

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If people are really interested in why I CD I'll tell them all about it. If I get the vibe that they are just asking so they can run me down no mattter what I say, I just respond "because I love my child." They can put that in thier pipe and smoke it!<br><br>
I tell people I'd CD even if it cost <i>more</i> but the savings are nice.
 

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You know, what always confounds me is that even when people are directly confronted with empirical evidence -- and even when it's experienced by them -- they still don't see the forest for the trees.<br><br>
As someone who experiences infertility issues and knows plenty of people who also do, I can't imagine why anyone would knowingly take the chance of passing it down.<br><br>
Jeez. BTW, thanks everyone for your help in getting "back on the cd wagon" with my newborn. Her tushy is covered in cloth these days, and wouldn't you know, the laundry is the same! Disposies truly are relatively useless when it comes to bf poopies. But now the poopie stains the diaper (where it should) and not her cute little rompers!
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;"><i>Originally posted by AnitaAddict</i><br><b>If people are really interested in why I CD I'll tell them all about it. If I get the vibe that they are just asking so they can run me down no mattter what I say, I just respond "because I love my child." They can put that in thier pipe and smoke it!<br><br>
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I love this response. I think I'll use it from now on, if you don't mind!<br><br>
Jenny
 
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