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We just moved last Friday and our cats have been in the laundry room with a litter box. I am wondering how long do we wait until we let them go outside. We will have a kitty door so they can come in the laundry room when they do go outside. I just dont want to let them out too early in fear they wouldnt find there way back. They keep darting for outdoors everything I open the door to go outside.<br><br>
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[soapbox] Cats should not go outside except if they are barn cats and you're in a very rural area. [/soapbox]<br><br>
Two or three weeks is the absolute minimum--any earlier than that and they will probably just try to go "home" to your old house.
 

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PLEASE do NOT let your cats outside, unless they are kenneled or on a leash.<br><br>
You neighbors will thank you.<br><br>
The wildlife will thank you.<br><br>
You cats will be safe (and, they will thank you) from cars, dogs, other cats and people, like me, that don't take kindly to irresponsible pet owners.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">You cats will be safe (and, they will thank you) from cars, dogs, other cats and people, like me, that don't take kindly to irresponsible pet owners.</div>
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Oh, dear. What do you do?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">PLEASE do NOT let your cats outside, unless they are kenneled or on a leash.<br><br>
You neighbors will thank you.<br><br>
The wildlife will thank you.<br><br>
You cats will be safe (and, they will thank you) from cars, dogs, other cats and people, like me, that don't take kindly to irresponsible pet owners.</div>
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I wish I was able to keep them indoors, but unless you call a cat living in one room for its entire life "quality" then please dont bash me... I have no other options. I rescued one of the cats from my x-sister-in-law as she was going to just dump the cat off at a apartment complex as he was peeing/spraying ALL OVER her house. I am not going to let him destroy our home.<br>
I am doing the best I can with what I have. Have you ever had a cat peeing all over your house and destroy it? We just spent $5,000 cleaning up my parents old house as there cat started peeing in it about 4 months and ago..
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">[soapbox] Cats should not go outside except if they are barn cats and you're in a very rural area. [/soapbox]<br><br>
Two or three weeks is the absolute minimum--any earlier than that and they will probably just try to go "home" to your old house.</div>
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As a replied earlier I wish I had in option to keep him indoors, but I dont.<br>
You can not re-home a cat that pees everywhere in a house, have you tried?<br>
My vet TOLD ME to put him out, he said it was the only "real" option unless I wanted my son to play in cat pee and spray and the children I care for.
 

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I can empathize, as my limited experience recently with an indoor cat who started to pee outside the box has shown me this is a maddening behavior for the owner.<br><br>
At this point it is socially acceptable where I live to let cats run loose outside the house. That is just the reality. I won't do it personally, but nobody I know in real would think I was a bad cat owner if I did it. So I guess if you don't live on a major highway it's a better option than putting your cat to sleep.<br><br>
But I would take a lot of precautions: collar with ID Tag, microchip ID inside the cat, fenced yard, update ALL shots including those that aren't mandatory (FLV), good quality flea and tick treatment like Advantage or Frontline, good quality diet etc.<br><br>
I would wait at least 3 weeks to let them out. It won't hurt them to wait.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Oh, dear. What do you do?</div>
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When a strange cat craps in the garden my daughter plays in? A sling shot with foam balls, hose, bitter apple spray, and double sided sticky tape.<br><br>
I agree, don't let your cats outside. It's irresponsible and not fair to your neighbors who have to continually pick poop out of the garden before their kids can play. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: I have 3 dogs of my own, I pick up enough crap. I don't want to be responsible for the neighborhood cats either.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">As a replied earlier I wish I had in option to keep him indoors, but I dont.<br>
You can not re-home a cat that pees everywhere in a house, have you tried?<br>
My vet TOLD ME to put him out, he said it was the only "real" option unless I wanted my son to play in cat pee and spray and the children I care for.</div>
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Have you tried tether training the cat? I have one cat who is DESPERATE to go outside. And she has darted out between our feet on numerous occasions. Luckily she goes outside, sits on the rail, then comes back inside 10 minutes later. For all her efforts trying to escape, she sure doesn't do anything exciting. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I got her a harness and spent several days putting it on, taking it off, leaving it on around the house, tying a light leash to it, etc. She eventually got so desensitized to it that now I'm able to clip her up on the porch and let her sit out in the sun while I work around the house. She has enough length that she even goes down into the grass to pee!<br><br>
Perhaps while your indoor whizzer is spending those few weeks in the laundry room you could invest in a harness and get him used to wearing it, and then see how he does going outside several times a day online to pee outside? It's worth a shot.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">When a strange cat craps in the garden my daughter plays in? A sling shot with foam balls, hose, bitter apple spray, and double sided sticky tape.<br><br>
I agree, don't let your cats outside. It's irresponsible and not fair to your neighbors who have to continually pick poop out of the garden before their kids can play. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: I have 3 dogs of my own, I pick up enough crap. I don't want to be responsible for the neighborhood cats either.</div>
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So I am guessing your dogs <i>never</i> bark and annoy the neighborhood?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br>
So I am guessing you would suggest putting the cat to sleep?<br>
How would you deal with a cat peeing all over your house?<br>
Think about it...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So I guess if you don't live on a major highway it's a better option than putting your cat to sleep.</div>
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I have to disagree. It doesn't take a highway to put a cat at risk for being hit by a car. Cats are notorious for darting out into the road at the most inopportune times. Ask anyone who has ever traveled down a dark road, and almost everyone has a story of a cart darting in from them, the ONLY car on the road. Cats are much more "flight" then "fight", compared to dogs. If something spooks a cat, they bolt. Often times back to a familiar spot (like your house, a familiar tree, etc), even if that means bolting right across a street and in front of the ONLY car on the road.<br><br>
I agree that keeping a cat locked in a room for its entire life is not ideal, but I'm also not prepared to put my animals at risk for bleeding to death on the side of the road, being viciously attacked by other animals or wild life, or possibly contracting a disease through fighting, or even picking up parasites. Outdoor animals have much higher rates of parasites then indoor animals, some of which can be spread to humans. I have a child, so I know that playing in pee is a deal breaker, but I also don't want her to get hookworms or roundworms, either.<br><br>
Being humanely euthanized is the preferable way to die over being hit by a car, or contracted with FIV, FLV or FHP by being bitten or exposed to an infected cat. Have you see a cat die from FIP? It's HORRIBLE.<br><br>
I would try to make arrangements for the cat to go outside safely - on leash, in a screened enclosure or cat pen, rehome him to a barn or rural property where he can live outside, or have him humanely euthanized. But I wouldn't take the chance of one of my cats being hit by a car and left for dead.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">When a strange cat craps in the garden my daughter plays in? A sling shot with foam balls, hose, bitter apple spray, and double sided sticky tape.</div>
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No, I was actually asking that poster what it is that she does. I'm no fan of outdoor cats, but the way she phrased her response made me wonder what it is that she does to the cats she sees out and about. "Your cats will be safe (and, they will thank you) from cars, dogs, other cats and people, like me, that don't take kindly to irresponsible pet owners."
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So I am guessing your dogs <i>never</i> bark and annoy the neighborhood?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br>
So I am guessing you would suggest putting the cat to sleep?<br>
How would you deal with a cat peeing all over your house?<br>
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As a matter of fact, my yappy barker is outside with a citronella collar on as I type because it's a nice day, my daughter is sleeping, and I'm staying inside with her until she wakes up (ie; unable to supervise the dogs).<br><br>
And I HAVE had to think about it. I HAVE had to make the decision to euthanize an animal that I couldn't house to their benefit 100%. It's a crappy decision. But I've also scooped up my fair share of cats off the side of the road with broken backs, broken legs, and internal injuries, too. The latter is NOT the preferable decision, and unfortunately, the risk of that happening to a domesticated cat is extremely high. I wouldn't take the risk. Not even with a cat who peed in the house.
 

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To clarify my stance, the only exception I make is for "working" cats--those who live on farms and do mousing duty and other critter control. They're not pets.<br><br>
ETA: How vain am I, quoting myself? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">To clarify my stance, the only exception I make is for "working" cats--those who live on farms and do mousing duty and other critter control. They're not pets.<br><br>
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Well, then I will call my cat a working cat..<br>
I think he would rather be called that then put to sleep.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Well, then I will call my cat a working cat..<br>
I think he would rather be called that then put to sleep.</div>
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Not really the same thing...look, I'm not trying to hassle you, just replying to North's question.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">just replying to North's question.</div>
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Actually, you were replying to yourself, that was in response to me replying to you for asking a question to someone else. Did you catch that? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Actually, you were replying to yourself, that was in response to me replying to you for asking a question to someone else. Did you catch that? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"></div>
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Oh. Right.<br><br>
Wait. You're not me?
 

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The "he pees so he has to live outside" argument is rarely so simple. What kind of retraining was tried? Were multiple boxes placed? Were enzyme cleaners used? Was the cat given adequate stimulation? Was medication tried?<br><br>
We have a cat, a purebred Maine **** who for several years lived as a barn cat (by her preference) when we lived very rurally. She's now nine years old and we don't live rurally anymore. We've fought for years to keep this cat inside, and she's one of the few that I would have said just plain needed to be indoor/outdoor. When she was kept inside she became viciously aggressive. EXCEPT--we figured it out. She can't stand too much stimulation. She has to be alone most of the day. So now she spends days on our (enclosed, warm) porch, hiding in her cat tree, and she comes in for a few hours in the evening after the kids go to bed. This cat that I *swore* needed to be outside really just needed us to figure out how to meet her needs. So now she's an inside cat, she'll live a long healthy life, and she's happy. She never ever tries to go outside, after years of fighting to run out the door. She is relaxed and purrs constantly.<br><br>
So from my point of view, the story has to be very long, and putting the cat out has to be the last, last, LAST resort.
 

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Growing up I did have a cat who peed everywhere. We couldn't figure out why because there was nothing medically wrong until she was much older. And this is probably not an answer you'll like, but we just dealt with it. We tried different litters, boxes, etc... and nothing worked. She probaly would have been better in a 1 cat house, but we already had 2 when we got her. I hate to say you get used to it, but you kinda do.<br><br>
We also had a cat contract FIV from being bitten while he was outside. He was a former stray and loved being outside so we let him out. FIV is a horrible disease to watch an animal suffer from. It was heartbreaking to watch a beautiful cat who was perfectly healthy turn into a very sick, weak cat. We had to put him to sleep 7 months after his diagnosis because he had lost so much weight and was just miserable. He was also peeing all over towards the end.<br><br>
All that said, the 3 cats I have now are all indoor only cats after me finding them outside as strays.<br><br>
I'd wait a couple weeks to let them out, walk the property with the cats and make sure they're wearing a cat appropriate collar (one that is loose enough they can pull off if they get stuck), and microchipped.
 
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