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<p><a href="http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/418329_5" target="_blank">http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/418329_5</a></p>
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<p>Thanks for the links. I've declined the vit K in the past as I saw it as just another crazy thing the hospital wanted to fill my baby with, lol. I found the links interesting though. Would you mind sharing briefly why you choose to do the vit K? </p>
 

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<p>Thanks for the links. I've declined the vit K in the past as I saw it as just another crazy thing the hospital wanted to fill my baby with, lol. I found the links interesting though. Would you mind sharing briefly why you choose to do the vit K? </p>
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<p>I know you're not asking me, but I did mention above that my youngest suffered from a brain bleed which might have not needed a transfer had I used vitamin K. It does have its benefits for when things do go wrong, but I don't believe in the injection. Just my take.</p>
 

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<p>I did a fair amount of research and when done correctly the oral vit k is just as effective...so that's what I plan to do... no preservatives that way! It does take multiple doses so it is harder then the one and done shot</p>
 

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<p>I did a fair amount of research and when done correctly the oral vit k is just as effective...so that's what I plan to do... no preservatives that way! It does take multiple doses so it is harder then the one and done shot</p>
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<p>Yeah, but it's just three, isn't it? One at birth, one at a week and I've heard of some people doing another at one month?</p>
 

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<p>This is a recent article worth reading about Vit K.</p>
<p><a href="http://evidencebasedbirth.com/evidence-for-the-vitamin-k-shot-in-newborns/" target="_blank">http://evidencebasedbirth.com/evidence-for-the-vitamin-k-shot-in-newborns/</a></p>
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<p>I personally don't decline Vit K, as with all things, we weigh the risks and benefits, and in this case we find the potential benefits of having the shot to far outweigh the possible negatives. We look at information with each child again, in the case of updated research etc, but have made the same decision 7 years ago, nearly 3 years ago, and this time. The potential harm is too great, even if it's a small likely hood.</p>
 
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<p>This one's good: <a href="http://www.vaclib.org/basic/vitamin-k.htm" target="_blank">http://www.vaclib.org/basic/vitamin-k.htm</a></p>
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<p>and this one to compliment SynEpona's: <a href="http://www.scienceandsensibility.org/?p=8053" target="_blank">http://www.scienceandsensibility.org/?p=8053</a></p>
 
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<p>My first 2 babies had rough births and got Vit K in the NICU. I declined it with my 3rd but I'll be getting it this time after reading more (including SynEpona's article) and realizing it wasn't just a problem immediately postpartum.</p>
 

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<p>I will be having a homebirth with provincial regulated midwives. I find them falling somewhere in the middle of my family Dr and the underground midwives I used for my last birth. This midwife is very flat and I don't feel any connection with her so I don't expect any emotional support from her at the birth. So I just contacted my old midwives apprentice she is still in midwifery training in the US and asked if she would be my doula. She said she will but she is coming back right around my due date so there is a possibility that she won't make it. My mom is also coming but also only 1 day before my due date. Sooo, I might get one of the ladies from my doula training to be my "backup" in the unlikely event I give birth early. (then it would be free) which would be nice. </p>
 

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<p><a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/community/u/101127/shenanegans" style="display:inline-block;">@shenanegans</a> a free doula would be amazing! :) I hope you end up with the perfect person there for you, who is amazingly supportive!</p>
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<p>Thank you for all the links to the vit K stuff! It's going on my list of talking points for next week's midwife appointment. </p>
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<p>Any homebirth mamas doing the PKU stick? We did it only with our first, as he was the only hospital birth, but after having a friend whose daughter that has one of those rare conditions I'm rethinking things. Thoughts?</p>
 

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<p><a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/community/u/101127/shenanegans" style="display:inline-block;">@shenanegans</a> a free doula would be amazing! :) I hope you end up with the perfect person there for you, who is amazingly supportive!</p>
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<p>Thank you for all the links to the vit K stuff! It's going on my list of talking points for next week's midwife appointment. </p>
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<p>Any homebirth mamas doing the PKU stick? We did it only with our first, as he was the only hospital birth, but after having a friend whose daughter that has one of those rare conditions I'm rethinking things. Thoughts?</p>
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<p>PKU for best results should be done 5-6 days after birth. I plan to have it done at the pedi's not in the hospital.</p>
 

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<p>I agree Vit K should be given I'm just not crazy about the other ingredients in the shot besides the vit k.</p>
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<p>Studies Compiled here and you can buy it on t his site too:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.birthwithlove.com/categories/itempage.asp?prodid=vitamin+k+1+(vit+k+1+)oral+vit+k" target="_blank">http://www.birthwithlove.com/categories/itempage.asp?prodid=vitamin+k+1+(vit+k+1+)oral+vit+k</a></p>
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<p><a href="http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/27/high-risks-to-your-baby-from-vitamin-k-shot-they-dont-warn-you-about.aspx" target="_blank">http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/27/high-risks-to-your-baby-from-vitamin-k-shot-they-dont-warn-you-about.aspx</a></p>
 

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<p>Any homebirth mamas doing the PKU stick? We did it only with our first, as he was the only hospital birth, but after having a friend whose daughter that has one of those rare conditions I'm rethinking things. Thoughts?</p>
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<p>I had the PKU stick with my homebirths. I can't remember if the midwife ordered it or if we had it done at the ped's office, though.</p>
 

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Between me and my husband, we have a history of several different rare disorders and would like to know if our baby has something <i>before</i> issues develop. We did it with both boys and plan to do it for every baby we have.<br><br>
ETA: Our homebirth midwife does it in our home at one of the postpartum visits.
 

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We are also doing the PKU stick. The midwife will come back to do it at home for us. We are also doing the Vit K.
 

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<p><a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/community/u/101127/shenanegans" style="display:inline-block;">@shenanegans</a> a free doula would be amazing! :) I hope you end up with the perfect person there for you, who is amazingly supportive!</p>
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<p>Thank you for all the links to the vit K stuff! It's going on my list of talking points for next week's midwife appointment. </p>
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<p>Any homebirth mamas doing the PKU stick? We did it only with our first, as he was the only hospital birth, but after having a friend whose daughter that has one of those rare conditions I'm rethinking things. Thoughts?</p>
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<p>I plan on doing the heel prick test at about 3-5 days post partum.</p>
 

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<p>No reason that I can see to decline the PKU.</p>
 

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<p>No reason that I can see to decline the PKU.</p>
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<p>I've had some conspiracy theorists argue that the government keeps the blood so they can do additional tests and make clones. But that's just them. lol</p>
 

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<p>No reason that I can see to decline the PKU.</p>
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<p>My only hesitation, is that the rate of false positives increases in the summer, especially with tests done at home, then transported to a lab. It's not a reason to decline IMO, but something to be aware of.</p>
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<p>With DD, we got a call when she was less than a week old with a 'you have an appointment first thing Monday, if you see any signs of these 3 or 4 symptoms over the weekend, page this doc and go to the university hospital ASAP' That was a little freaky! She had 2 positives on her newborn screening -- both for extremely rare disorders, one was an enzyme related thing, and I can't remember the other now. It was statistically impossible for her to actually have both, but they must follow up on every positive result.</p>
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<p>We spent a very long day at the university hospital (which is an hour away), with her the following week, doing more tests, which were all negative -- she was totally fine.</p>
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<p>The geneticist and other docs we spoke with said they do get an increase in false positives in the summer -- the samples get too hot in transit to the labs (or in the M/W's cars between clients), and skew the results. Worth knowing, as it can lessen the worry if you get a positive test for a rare disorder.</p>
 

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<p>I agree Vit K should be given I'm just not crazy about the other ingredients in the shot besides the vit k.</p>
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<p>More links for Oral Vit K:</p>
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<p>Studies Compiled here and you can buy it on t his site too:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.birthwithlove.com/categories/itempage.asp?prodid=vitamin+k+1+(vit+k+1+)oral+vit+k" target="_blank">http://www.birthwithlove.com/categories/itempage.asp?prodid=vitamin+k+1+(vit+k+1+)oral+vit+k</a></p>
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<p><a href="http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/27/high-risks-to-your-baby-from-vitamin-k-shot-they-dont-warn-you-about.aspx" target="_blank">http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/27/high-risks-to-your-baby-from-vitamin-k-shot-they-dont-warn-you-about.aspx</a></p>
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<p>I'm not thrilled about the olive and soy in the tincture.  If we decline the shot and go for oral administration, do we have to procure it ourselves?</p>
 

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<p>I'm not thrilled about the olive and soy in the tincture.  If we decline the shot and go for oral administration, do we have to procure it ourselves?</p>
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<p>It depends. You need to ask your midwife/OB some of them have it some of them don't.</p>
 
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