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I talked to a few very mainstream people about carseats this past week and there seems to be a strange brand following regarding carseats. And I'm not talking about Britax-loving people (and I'm one of those), I mean people saying things like "I loved my Graco stroller, so we got a Graco carseat" or things along those lines. People who loved a product unrelated to safety and then base their carseat decision on that.<br><br>
So now I'm curious. If you were to recommend against getting a mainstream brand carseat, which would would recommend against and why?
 

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Evenflo infant seats, because of their G*d- awful track record and the massive recalls, as well as the "fix" for the recalls.<br><br>
Dorel, because of the huge problem with the 3-in-1 top harness slots being "booster mode only" but it's not clearly marked at all. Plus, the problem with the notches in the Touriva. Oh, and the more recent issue of the harnesses of the Scenera being damaged and they have not issued a recall even though they are well aware of the problem. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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Cosco/Dorel, because of their horrible business practices, plus the recalls(or lack thereof) I still remember how it took a 20/20 special on the dangers of the Cosco Grand Explorer(the only shield booster left on the market for years) to get them to finally stop selling it.
 

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My child will not ride in a cosco/dorel/evenflo seat unless there is no other option.<br><br>
-Angela
 

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Cosco. My oldest ds rode in a dangerous seat for 9 mos that wasn't recalled until *2 years* later after SEVERAL babies were injured!
 

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I avoid Evenflo like the plague. They really need to get their act together. I know most of their problem is with infant seats, but I've had several problems in the past with my two old Triumphs and their horrendous CS reps told me I was SOL (they later did a voluntary recall for those things I b*tched about). <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
I'm also not thrilled with Dorel, but if I had to I'd use a Scenera. My friend has one as a back up for her DS and I've installed it and used it for him in my car and I didn't love it, but it does the job and you get your money's worth out of it.<br><br>
I currently own Chicco, Britax, and Sunshine Kids seats and I'm thrilled with all of them. I have had a Graco seat in the past and it's okay, not my favorite, but I'd use them again.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Evenflo infant seats, because of their G*d- awful track record and the massive recalls, as well as the "fix" for the recalls.<br><br>
Dorel, because of the huge problem with the 3-in-1 top harness slots being "booster mode only" but it's not clearly marked at all. Plus, the problem with the notches in the Touriva. Oh, and the more recent issue of the harnesses of the Scenera being damaged and they have not issued a recall even though they are well aware of the problem. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:</div>
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What's wrong with the scenera harnesses? We have one although we only use it when we fly so we're not using it currently...
 

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After reading, this: <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-carseats-special,0,2073543.story?page=1" target="_blank">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...3.story?page=1</a>, DH and I vowed to never, ever let our children ride in a seat manufactured by Dorel (Cosco, Eddie Bauer, Safety First) or Evenflo again. We had to get rid of 2 Sceneras and an Apex (our spares). I will not buy any other products from either company, either, out of principle.<br><br>
We own and use Britax, Sunshine Kids, Compass, The First Years (True Fit seat), and Graco seats. I trust them with my kids' lives <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
There are a bunch of Sceneras (not sure of the DOMs) that have sharp plastic spikes on the underside of the seat; the harness is getting snagged and becoming damaged as a result. Dorel will send you a new "puncture proof harness" if you call and harass them. As usual, they are all about child safety <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes">
 

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I avoid Evenflo like the plague and now Dorel/Cosco. I would have considered a Cosco Scenera as a backup until reading this thread though! We currently have 2 Britaxes and I would buy a Graco or Chico infant seat if we ever needed one.
 

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You really have to be kidding me. For quite some time, the Costco Scenera has been the go to car seat for those who cannot/do not wish to spend $300. Now it's crap. That's just dandy.<br><br>
So is there any affordable car seat out there? Or are only the wealthy able to purchase a safe car seat for their child?<br><br>
Funny thing is, people on this thread recommeded the Scenera to me.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">You really have to be kidding me. For quite some time, the Costco Scenera has been the go to car seat for those who cannot/do not wish to spend $300. Now it's crap. That's just dandy.<br><br>
So is there any affordable car seat out there? Or are only the wealthy able to purchase a safe car seat for their child?<br><br>
Funny thing is, people on this thread recommeded the Scenera to me.</div>
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Totally...<br><br>
How many times have I seen the Cosco Scenera recommended as a 'great' alternative to one of the expensive seats.<br><br>
Now people (who I've directly seen recommend it) say they'd NEVER put their kid in one...<br><br>
Good enough for other people's kids.... But not their own.
 

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We just moved dd out of her evenflo seat, but only because she was too tall for it. We got it because of its high rating on consumer reports. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">
 

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I'm one that regularly says they won't put their kids in these seats. And yeah, a handful of times I've suggested a scenera. IME there ARE no good cheap seats. Sucks. But I think a child in a properly fitting seat, rf as long as possible, harnessed as long as possible, is safer than one not.<br><br>
If I had no other option on seats, I would use a scenera before letting my child be ff very young or not harnessed etc. But I would move heaven and earth to get a different seat. I just don't trust them.<br><br>
It's a two edged sword in some ways IMO. Yeah, it would be great if we had more affordable, "good" seats. But really, IMO, the solution (big picture) is to raise standards- which will most likely just make the cheapest seats more expensive. Then everyone will HAVE to get more expensive seats.<br><br>
I think in some ways it just has to be viewed as an unavoidable expense. Cars aren't cheap either.<br><br>
-Angela
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">We just moved dd out of her evenflo seat, but only because she was too tall for it. We got it because of its high rating on consumer reports. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"></div>
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Consumer reports is NOT a good source for information on carseats.<br><br>
-Angela
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">What's wrong with the scenera harnesses? We have one although we only use it when we fly so we're not using it currently...</div>
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The Scenera has these spikes on the underside that can snag the harness and cause some rips. Just turn your seat over and visually inspect the harness. You may or may not have spikes on yours. Dorel is aware of the problem but hasn't done anything yet, besides sending out "stronger" harnesses that are exactly the same as the original ones.<br><br><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">IME there ARE no good cheap seats. Sucks. But I think a child in a properly fitting seat, rf as long as possible, harnessed as long as possible, is safer than one not. <snip><br><br>
If I had no other option on seats, I would use a scenera before letting my child be ff very young or not harnessed etc.<br>
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ITA. You get what you pay for. A $40 seat is not going to be the highest quality, obviously. But it will do it's job and restrain a child in a crash.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Consumer reports is NOT a good source for information on carseats.<br><br>
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Once again, ITA. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Consumer reports is NOT a good source for information on carseats.<br><br>
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What is a good source?
 

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All of the car seat freaks on this board <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/whistling.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="whistle"> Or on car-seat.org <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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I do not avoid car seat companies just car seat models.<br><br>
I own and buy what ever meets my needs\wants and budget for each child.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">All of the car seat freaks on this board <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/whistling.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="whistle"> Or on car-seat.org <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"></div>
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Yep. There are no groups that are doing reliable testing on carseats sadly.<br><br>
-Angela
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yep. There are no groups that are doing reliable testing on carseats sadly.<br><br>
-Angela</div>
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So - is what you're saying that all the 'recommendations' are based on 'feel' and anecdotal evidence????<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/whistling.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="whistle"><br><br>
That seems like a nice void of actual information on which to base suggestions as to which carseats to use and which ones to avoid...
 
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