[StephanieUSCG]

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Whooping Cough. Ugh. I had my friend over on Saturday and she called me last night to let me know that her mom has been diagnosed with Whooping Cough and that she is in the early stages of Whooping Cough. I called my doctor and Im waiting to hear back. I guess it takes 1-2 weeks to see any form of symptoms if you are gonna get it. My mom said I was vaccinated for it when I was a kid, but ya never know what can happen. I need to start looking this up on the internet just to see if theres complications.</td>
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Her DR. called the Infectious Disease ppl at her local hospital and they told the dr to put her on antibiotics.<br><br>
1. the girl is pregnant and is not sick.<br>
2. antibiotics dont work on pertussis.<br>
3. SHE'S NOT SICK!<br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: I dont get some people!

 

[thepeach80]

Pertussis is a bacteria right? From what I've read antibiotics can shorten the contagious period and if given before symptoms show, can keep them from showing.

 

[Delta]

Yeah, antibiotics do shorten the life of pertussis.<br><br>
DS was exposed at his mother's day out last month...another little boy in his room had it.<br><br>
DS never got it but his doc said that if he did he'd prescribe zythromax for pertussis, which DS already happened to be on for bronchiolitis.<br><br>
It seems every kid I know was sick in February.

 

[massaginmommy]

You can get pertussis even if you were vaccinated. 20% of the vaccinated population doesn't receive the immunity. Also pertussis vaccine has a life span of 10-15 years so even if you received artificial immunity it is worn off by now.<br>
We just went through this. They put us on Zithromax and quarantined us for 5 days to stop the outbreak. Our town was having it show up all over. My DH, me and our 17yo son all vaccinated got early symptoms and DS tested positive. (they only cultured him because he is iin school) DD and youngest DS both unvaxed had the full blown cough etc... Natural immunity lasts for life. The antibiotics did shorten our illness (the vaxed population in my family) as we caught it early at the first sign of cold like symptoms.

 

[SagMom]

Would taking antibiotics effect the immunity one would build from getting whooping cough naturally?

 

[demetria]

<a href="http://www.greentit.com/earthly1.shtm" target="_blank">http://www.greentit.com/earthly1.shtm</a><br><br>
I have an article here about herbals for vaccinated against disease. From the perspective of having not vaccinated but it will work for both.<br>
Demetria

 

[Gitti]

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Would taking antibiotics effect the immunity one would build from getting whooping cough naturally?</div>
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Antibiotics definitely are not supportive to a body fighting any disease.<br><br><b>BUT you can not build life long immunity to whooping cough.</b> Even if you have it naturally and if you take absolutely nothing for it.<br><br>
Pertussis is in the community in the young as well as in the grown ups and even the very old.<br><br>
The particulars about pertussis bacteria is that over a certain age it does not affect a person the way it does the young.<br><br>
Pertussis is worst in the very young because of the narrow wind pipe and because they are not quite as strong to cough up the fluid which pools in the lungs.<br><br><b>In a whooping cough epidemic most children <span style="text-decoration:underline;">ARE</span> fully vaccinated.</b> So the vaccine serves no purpose. They tell us that it creates some kind of immunity but there is no proof.<br><br>
B. pertussis is just one of those bacteria we just have to live with.<br><br><b>AND IN FACT WE DO!</b>

 

[amnesiac]

If you give the antibiotic & it kills any B pertussis that might be in there before you do get sick then it does work so I totally understand why a pg woman would do that. If you wait until you're already sick with whooping cough to start taking the abx they won't get rid of the symptoms because of the damage the bacteria have already done to the respiratory tract. It might shorten the duration if you start taking it early enough in the course of infection though.

 

[StephanieUSCG]

OK I read somewhere that no antibiotics works on pertussis. That antibiotics are given to help w/ secondary infections: bronchitis, phenomia, ear infections, etc.<br><br>
I'll try and find where I read that.<br><br><br>
Ok am I reading it wrong? <a href="https://www.909shot.com/Diseases/whooping.htm" target="_blank">https://www.909shot.com/Diseases/whooping.htm</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">There is no medicine to cure whooping cough but antibiotics are often used to reduce the spread of the disease to others as well as treat secondary infections such as pneumonia, bronchitis, and otitis media (inner ear infections). In the past, these secondary infections often caused many of the deaths, which occurred after a child had whooping cough.</td>
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[amnesiac]

I can see why you're confused - there's a difference between curing whooping cough & killing B pertussis. "Whooping cough" is the symptom that you get once you've got the infection & the bacteria have screwed up the cilia. B pertussis is the name of those bacteria. Once you have the symptom of whooping cough it's too late for the antibiotics to do much good for your symptoms but it will kill the bacteria that might still be in there & prevent you from spreading them to other people. The "whooping cough" doesn't go away immediately when the bateria are gone because the cilia have to re-grow. But if you kill the bacteria before they do the damage you won't get the "whooping cough." Clear as mud?

 

[Delta]

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Well, I wouldn't go that far. DS was up to date on his DTaP (3 shots) and he didn't get pertussis after being exposed and playing with another little boy who had it. I do credit that to the vacccine though I don't know that for sure. Still, I am glad he was vaxed. None of the other kids in his MDO who were exposed got it either, and they were all vaxed.<br><br>
The lil' one who was sick with it had a compromised immune system because he was still recovering from a very bad case of RSV. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">

 

[massaginmommy]

Well, we all had it . DH Me and DS (17) have all been vaccinated. DD, YDS have not. But it was rampant in the public schools here in this small town (10,000) and the majority of those kids are vaccinated. All it means is your child will be suseptable to it the next ouotbreak or when exposed as a teen or adult where as once you get it your natural immunity will protect you from getting it again.

 

[melia6]

My nursing 2 yr. old was exposed to pertussis and I read the incubation period is 7-21 days. She is coughing a little with no other symptons and the other kids-vaxed -don't have a cold or anything and it has been 15 days. I guess I need to take her to the pediatrician and get her tested? I was waiting to see if she coughed any this weekend but she is some, not a lot. She coughed a little then didn't for days and days but that also sounds like whooping cough. I hate for her to get put on antibiotics if it may be too late for them to do anything. I hate it anyway but .... she is not eating any dairy, eggs, etc. and I had hoped I could just deal with it naturally. I wonder if I took herbal info to the dr. if she would go with that? I doubt it! I want to do what is best for baby of course. 2 yrs, three months, good size, healthy, very verbal, vegetarian/vegan.

 

[melia6]

Forgive me for asking things that have, more or less, been asked. It is a big decision to go to the dr. because they will put her on antibiotics and lord knows what else.