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why did my doc say this?

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Ped said this AM that i was right on about delaying solids until DD turned 6 months, but when I said I wanted to skip the nasty cereal and go straight to veggies, she said she needs the iron in the cereal.
Did I not read that the whole iron thing is crap if I'm EBFing? i'd rather not give it, if i can avoid it.
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I heard the same thing about the cereal/iron connection. However, my kids didn't like it much and I was lazy about making it every morning so they really didn't eat much of it and they are totally health kids!
my ds is not on cereal and he won't be. it's true breastmilk has less iron than formula, therefore breastfed babies "should" (they say) have cereal with iron, but the iron in breastmilk is absorbed much faster therefore I don't see it as necessary. I would skip it if I were you, IMO it will only stuff the baby's stomach and could affect supply.
I don't plan on giving cereal, at least not as a first and regular food. I'm really not sure what I plan on giving first. I was thinking of just getting a food processer and pureeing (I know that is spelled wrong) veggies and fruits for my daughter.

Its been so long since I had a baby that I need to read up on the subject, but I don't see what the big appeal is about baby cereal. Maybe if there is an organic version I would give it to her for the iron content. There are lots of veggies that are high in iron too (dark green ones), maybe mention those to your ped. and see if they would work. It seems they have more nutritional value than gerber rice cereal.

I'll keep an eye on this thread and see if I can learn more about the cereal thing too
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ITA about the disgusting taste of baby cereal. I never saw the point of giving to him straight up.

However, I'm a vegetarian and I know that my bm prob contains less iron than meat eaters' bm (not knocking other veg's diets, but I know the specific diet I eat has less iron than it should). I also know that iron is better absorbed if ingested with a vit C source, so I have been putting a tsp of baby cereal into the fresh fruit purees I make for ds.

Ds' first foods were applesauce and papaya, both good sources of vit C, and I would regularly mix in a tsp of baby cereal. But he never ate it plain.

I really couldn't figure out the iron debate and didn't really have the time to delve deeply into it so I just figured I'd play it safe.

P. :)
One thing you can do if your doc pushes iron supplementation or cereals ir have them check your baby's iron level. It's a simple finger prick and then your doc can eat their words if your babe's iron is fine.
I never gave cereal at all. Dd was fine. Try to get a bunch of iron into yourself by eating foods rich in iron, I would assume that it would pass into your BM.
you all are wonderfully helpful! My ped was pissing me off a bit today. Telling me not to make my baby food etc, when everything in the jar was just as good, if not better because the FDA has higher standards for baby food.
whatever! I plan on making all of my DD's food, and will just totally skip that nasty cereal.

There are times, when I feel that I know more than my ped!
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My baby's first food was avacado mixed with breastmilk.

Rice cereal is formulated for formula-fed babies, who do not the same kind of nutritional needs as breastfed babies (Ie. FF'd need more because formula is so deficient).
While there is more iron in formula and cereal, it is artificial, and not readily absorbed. Out of 12g of iron in formula, only around 10% is absorbed. Out of 1-2 in breastmilk, almost 100% is absorbed. It also reacts differently in the body then artificial iron supplementation does. In the end, breastfed babies get more iron.

A breastfed baby also has iron stores from birth that last well into the first year, for some even past. A BF'd baby doesn't even need solids at six months, and can survive on solely breastmilk for a lot longer.
Rice Cereal is essentially empty of any real value, and would probably do more to constipate a BF'd baby then help them in any way...

If you want to start your infant on iron-rich foods, why not try leafy greens instead? There are plenty of other, easily attainable and healthier options for iron then rice cereal.


http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/vitamins/iron.html Kellymom has a good article, although her numbers are a little off from what I remember...
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Some babies do need more iron than is present in breastmilk sometime during the first year. Depending on baby's iron stores at birth, baby can get plenty iron from breastmilk alone from 6-12 mos, usually. Increasing iron in the mom's diet does not significantly increase iron in breastmilk.
Cereal is certainly not the only, or even the best source of iron for infants old enough to eat solids. Meat can be introduced early on, or beans.
My little dd was exclusively breastfed for 7 mos, but was anemic by 8 mos. She also had her cord cut nearly immediately after birth, so I think that might have had something to do with her not having as much iron stores as she could have. My ped (my partner, actually) wanted me to give her an iron supplement, but we were able to raise her hemoglobin by encouraging her to eat iron-rich foods, instead, and when she was rechecked at 9 mos her hemoglobin was nearly normal, and at 12 mos it was normal. She always preferred finger foods, and a favorite iron-rich food for her was chicken breast. I would put a boneless chicken breast in a small corningware with about a 1/2" of vit. C fortified apple juice and bake it in the oven until it was very soft, then cut it into small bits for her. She also loved halved kidney beans.
I can't believe the doc thinks jarred food is better than making your own from real food! The FDA doesn't make sure baby foods are healthier. They regulate what you claim on the label, but they don't make sure the best, fresh produce is used, or anything like that. I'd much rather pick out my babies food directly!
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In response to an above post... there is organic baby cereal. Check your local health store, Wild Oats or Whole Foods.
My little guy was anemic at 11 months so I feel bad that I didn't give him cereal. Now I am playing catch up. I guess if I did it over again I wwould give him some cereal but also push iron rich foods which, looking back, I wasn't careful to always include. I thought if he was bf he was ok. Also, according to kellymom, increasing you iron will not increase your babes iron. I don't know why.
Is baby cereal iron-fortified, or is the iron naturally occuring? I'm also going to skip infant cereal and just give dd2 pureed oatmeal when it's time. Does that have iron?

I'm not too worried about it; I figure breastmilk has all they need until they start to be hungrier for other foods. Also, I found with dd1 that as I nursed less often, the milk became much richer. When I was nursing most of the day, it was thin and watery. When I started nursing only once a day or less, it was very thick and yellow - the nutrients were much more concentrated, I was told by LLL.
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Is baby cereal iron-fortified, or is the iron naturally occuring? I'm also going to skip infant cereal and just give dd2 pureed oatmeal when it's time. Does that have iron?

baby cereal is iron fortified which is why its harder for the iron to digest. I will also be skipping the baby cereal and started with foods rich in natural iron.
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baby cereal is iron fortified which is why its harder for the iron to digest. I will also be skipping the baby cereal and started with foods rich in natural iron.
I would love some suggestions on the best iron rich foods to feed my DD. I would rather not give nasty boxed baby cereal. It tastes like cardboard. Surely there is something better out there that is high in iron for my DD.
DD was ff and I still didn't give her any cereal till she'd been introduced to and loved lots of different veggies. Her first cereal was oatmel and not the baby kind. She is one of the healthiest kids I know and still eats oatmeal for breakfast nearly every day
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DD was BF until 8 mos. but started eating solids at 6 mos. We live in Switzerland and don't have all the fancy-schmanzy baby foods that the US and EU countries have. First time she had "solid" foods, I gave her pureed veggies (carrots and/or potatoes) and fruit. Cereal didn't come until much later in the form of whole wheat and oatmeal as I couldn't find one that wasn't loaded with sugar! (Really, in this day and age!). I was told by my ped during the 6 month visit to start her on meat at the beginning of the 7th month, as it was a natural way of getting iron. Since we are not vegetarians, I had no problems with this and gave her pureed veal, beef and chicken.

Try not to worry. Most likely your doctor was just prescribing an easy solution, when in fact you wanted the healthy one! That's why we need to stay informed.
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Telling me not to make my baby food etc, when everything in the jar was just as good, if not better because the FDA has higher standards for baby food. There are times, when I feel that I know more than my ped!
I wouldn't doubt that you do... at least you definately know your child better, and that's what matters most in this matter.

LOL Yes, higher standards... I can see it now... "Oh, preservatives never hurt anyone..." Blech!
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LOL Yes, higher standards... I can see it now... "Oh, preservatives never hurt anyone..." Blech!
I know, can you imagine? It's okay to give your kid nasty preservatives. She said it was just more convenient to buy it. As if I took on the job of mothering for mere "convenience". Silly cow!
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