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I was talking to my grandmother today. She just turned 77,but is very active and young...people think she's 40!!<br>
She had my dad at 30, which was old in 1959. She had an extremely difficult time concieving him. Apparently they thought her periods were just irregular, but she was actually she was having miscarriages very early.<br>
Well, my dad was born, and she then got pregnant again. The baby was going to be 21 months younger than my dad.<br>
Well, I want to know something.<br>
My grandma lost her mucus plug one night. She called her OB and told her to rest. The next morning, she woke up and labor had begun.<br>
The little girl was born at 6 mons (she didn't know how many weeks she was), was 1lb and several ounces and apparently lived for 45 minutes .My grandmother never saw her and was only told about her when she "came to". She never held her or anything. Never saw her. She told me that back then, they didn't even try to save babies that young.<br>
She went on to concieve one more child, but miscarried at 3 months.<br>
Her story saddens me so much. I want to know if this little girl would have surived during this day and age. And if she suffered greatly for her 45 minutes in this world.
 

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What probably would have happened in this day and age is that when she called her OB the first time, they would not have told her to rest, they would have told her to come see them imeidiatly. Then they would have given her something to stop her labor, if her labor, They would try anythingand everything to get that baby to cook as long as posible. Babies have been known to survive at 26 weelk (6 months) but the longer in there the better. She would be on strict bedrest and probaly would stay in the hospital till she delivered. If the baby had to come that early they would give magnisium to stregthen the babies lungs and probably a ton of other things would be done that I'm not sure of. But the baby would definatly had a chance if born in 2006!!!!!
 

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Although I don't post there anymore I used to belong to a due date group on a large message board for women. We had a mom who gave birth at 25 weeks. She had (I hate this term) an incomptent cervix. She had lost a baby earlier to it. Though she had a cerclage she still went into premature labor. I don't think they gave her the steroid shot to mature the lungs because the baby was so premature. The little girl was born barely over a pound. She had a lot of problems as you can imagine. She went through a lot including months and months in the NICU. She had feeding problems, eye problems, respiratory problems... Today, she's a normal 7 month (adjusted age) old baby though slightly underweight compared to her peers.<br><br>
I think the baby your grandmother had at 6 months would have survived with the level of NICU care available at large hospitals today.<br><br>
It saddens me that your grandmother never got to see her daughter. Parents should always be allowed to spend as much time as they want with their child.
 

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My grandmother had a full term baby in the early 1950s. She was "put under" (twilight sleep or GA, I don't know). She delivered a baby who did not have a skull. The Dr. told my grandpa to take care of the funeral arrangements himself before my grandmother woke up. When she did "wake up" three days later, she asked for her baby. At that time she was told her baby was dead and buried. That is just how things were then <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> .<br><br>
My mother gave birth to a premature baby boy in July 1990. He was due on Halloween, so he was about 6 months. He lived for 11 days. Even that recently, there wasn't much that could be done for him. They kept him on oxygen, but he was just placed on a heating table (like the ones newborns are placed on). he had the deck stacked against him, because he was a superpreemie and a boy. We knew of a girl who was born the same month, at the same gestation. She lived, but at age 5 didn't know how to suck or swallow, and she had the mental age of a two year old.<br><br>
I met a mama when my baby was in NICU (12/2005) who had a baby girl at 7 months gestation. She wasn't considered high risk enough to fly her to a special hospital. She was in the hospital for over a month, but was able to come home with (so far) nothing wrong.<br><br>
there are so many medical advances that were unheard of even 15 years ago, when my brother was born. i am so glad that when a baby NEEDS medical care, our doctors are able to provide it so much more than 15 or 50 years ago.
 

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My friend was born in 1983 at 25 weeks. He weighed only 1lb 5ozs. He had to have heart surgery at just 5 days old. But he survived and did very well. I have seen pictures and it really just blows my mind that they were able to save him. My own daughter was stillborn at 22weeks, and weighed just 2 ozs less. I often wonder if she had been born alive if they would have tried to save her.<br><br>
Last year my friend's sister delivered her son at 25 weeks. They didn't even try to save him. He died within a few minutes of delivery. My friend was there and held him as he was dieing, her sister didn't even want to see him. She did finally hold him later with some gentle encouragement. I think it helped her to heal. She is pregnant now, and if her cerclage holds she will be delivering early next month.<br><br>
My grandmother had 6 living children. After my daughter died I was told that she had had several stillborn babies. No one ever spoke of it before, and my mother didn't know how many siblings she might have lost. They just didn't talk about those kinds of things. She says her older sister knew more, because she was the oldest and around when it happened, but she is gone now. Those babies are not listed in the family bible, nor are the buried in the family plots in the cemetary. I can't imagine how hard it must have been for her, because at the time she would not have been allowed to outwardly greive her children. I know she wouldn't have been asleep when they were delivered, because she delivered all of her children without drugs. She never talked to me about it herself, and she seemed suprised when we were arranging a funeral for Arawyn. Times have certainly changed.
 

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I found out that my DH's great aunt had a DD who was stillborn or died at birth. We had never heard about this baby until our Liam died. People just didn't talk about it.<br><br>
There was a woman in our church who was one of the "senior members" and she recently passed away at 87. She was such a bouncy bright happy lady, until she got sick. Anyways, the pastor was telling us some things she had never mentioned, that he learned from talking with her DD. Apparently her mother lost several premature babies before this lady was born, and when she was born VERY premature and tiny, they didn't think she was going to live either. She was so tiny they carried her around on a little pillow, and didn't give her a name! She was just "little one" until she turned FIVE and they took her down to the courthouse and let her pick out a name. Well, she certainly beat ALL the odds, went on to raise a family of her own, and lived to a ripe old age...<br><br>
I'm sure your grandmother's baby would have had a good chance of making it IF she was born in an area with access to high-level NICU care. When Liam was in NICU, I saw lots of REALLY tiny babies fighting hard for their lives. I was glad so many of them had a good chance of going home... ironic that MY comparatively big and strong baby couldn't.<br><br>
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I just worry she suffered, ya know?<br>
It seems she lived so long with such little intervention and I worry she struggled.<br>
I worry she was jsut laid somewhere or tossed adside.<br>
Do you think a nurse held her at all?<br>
Maybe it's crazy of me to think like that, but after having a baby, I realize how much love thye need. And how scary and sad it is for them to be alone like that. Plus- it's just compassion for another human being.
 

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That's sad. I hope someone held the baby.<br><br>
My cousin's ds was born at 24 weeks. He was 1 lb. 7 oz. He spent three months in the hospital. He is now six years old and doing really well.
 

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I found out that EVERY woman on my mother's side of the family loses their first child in some way or another and most of the time if they have twins one of them dies. It's a family curse that I didn't believe in until it happened to me--my firstborn twin died at 2 months and 29 days. I'm the oldest, but Mom had a miscarriage before me. Granny had a miscarriage right before she got pregnant with Mom. My aunt had a miscarriage before she had my cousin. My great aunt's firstborn twin was stillborn. I'm hoping this doesn't continue with my own daughter, or that if it does she has a miscarriage and not an infant death like I had.<br><br>
One of my cousins had a baby a few years ago that was born without a skull (her firstborn, of course). She found out via ultrasound when she was 7 months pregnant but continued the pregnancy anyway so she could donate the organs. The baby lived about 2 hours, loved in his/her (I don't remember the gender) Mommy's arms.
 

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I don't know how they treated babies that they could not save back then. I really hope that they held and cuddled them. Although, I remember from our NICU experience that ds skin was very fragile and sensitive to touch, and younger preemies sometimes could not be touched because it was uncomfortable to them. So if she was not held, perhaps that was a blessing in disguise. Breathing is difficult, but I was told it is not painful, that it is like exercising very hard to get enough air to breath.<br><br><br>
About halfway down this page <a href="http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/prematurity.jsp" target="_blank">http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz...rematurity.jsp</a><br>
there is a chart with current survival rates for preemies. Even a few years ago, the number were much different. I have a 30w preemie who will be 8 soon, and when he was born they said that if he had been 2 weeks earlier, his survival rate would have been about 50%. Keep in in mind that the majority of the younger preemies that do survive have some type of health problems as well, and some parent choose to without measures for very early babies because of this.
 

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My great-grandmother gave birth to a child (a daughter, I think) that was either stillborn or died very shortly after birth. I don't know why, but she was temporarily blind and never got to see her baby. She did hold her though and had one picture of her. It makes me really sad to think about. My father's mother had either one or two babies that didn't live. I really wish I could have talked to her about them, but I was only 12 when she died. Babies weren't really something I thought about then. It wasn't until after I told my MIL about my first m/c that I found out that she had also suffered a m/c. It's a sad thing that links us.
 
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