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Why is my 13.5 mo biting and my ped telling me to 'cold turkey' wean?

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My dd is 13.5 mo and yesterday started biting me when nursing. I had to put her away from me because it hurt so much and now she cries as if she wants to nurse, but won't nurse like she knows she's going to bite me. She doesn't seem to be able to control it.

We had a doc appt today so I talked to the pediatrician about it and she said it's probably related to teething (she's getting molars) but "it's time to wean and with her it will have to be cold turkey" because she doesn't nurse on a schedule. If this is a sign that she's ready to wean I'm okay with it, but I don't want to misread the signals. She hasn't nursed at all for almost 24 hours so I'm going to pump - but I'm wondering what to do longer term.

Any advice? Thanks.
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I'm sorry you are having such a rough time. Biting is not a sign of being ready to wean and the one part your ped could be right about is that it could be because of teething. Often a child will want to nurse more when they are teething because the pressure on the teeth relives some of the pain.

Perhaps you had a reaction when bit that scared your daughter - of course it hurt! This could be why she is hesitant to go back to the breast. Perhaps she senses that you are uneasy about nursing again. Maybe her teeth just really hurt. There are alot of 'ifs' but I would treat it as a nursing strike. See link below for more info on a nursing strike and how to get her back to the breast.

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/...to-breast.html

Good luck, mama.


She's far too young to wean. Most medical organizations, including WHO, say a minimum of 2 years.

She's probably in a nursing strike now from your reaction to the biting.

Best tips on biting

1. Watch, figure out pre-bite and take them off before it happens
2. when they bite, pull them TOWARDS you
3. talk talk talk about it.

-Angela
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Hey, our girls are 2 weeks apart in age! (3/6/08)

Evie just went through this, too. After nursing well for a year, she started biting me! I didn't yell or anything, but just took her off and said 'no, that hurts me', very seriously. She'd smirk. Then we'd switch sides, she'd nurse for a bit, then bite, I'd tell her no again, and then we'd be done. Not the best nursing sessions, but she got something. It lasted about a week, then two new teeth came through and she's since stopped.

I've never heard that biting is due to the baby being ready to wean. And quit cold turkey for a 13 month old is crazy. I'd start to question your ped's other advice, unfortunately...
Thanks all. Vaptek - I do the same thing when she bites. I say firmly "no biting - that hurts mommy" and then try to return her to the breast. If she bites again I move her to the other side - saying the same thing. Then if she bites again we stop. I went through this once before but she didn't stop nursing all together for this long (it's been since Sunday night). She will take the breast milk from a bottle but just won't go near the breast. I wonder if it's just lasting longer because she's older and has a better memory?
My dd was born 2/21/09 and we are going through the same thing right now. I think it is partially experimentation, possibly teething related. She's only went on a biting spurt once before and it stopped as soon as the teeth came in. She also seems like it is just too hard to resist doing it. I say gentle, gentle or easy, easy, and pull her in a little closer to me. I am very watchful so I do this at the first sign of pressure, before an actual chomp. If she puts a little more pressure I will tell her again and put my finger near my nipple so I can be ready to pop her off if necessary. She generally stops at this point, sometimes she will nibble a bit more and I will ask if she is done, put my breasts away, and if she indicates she isn't done I will let her on the other breast. If she persists after that the nursing session is over and I distract her with something else. I'm sure this is a temporary thing, like before. She knows gentle, gentle and easy, easy because we've been showing her gentle touches since she was 4 months old, for our cats and us. I agree with others that this has nothing to do with a desire to wean and I really wish doctors would not be so pushy about weaning once the baby passes that 12 month age.
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If you want to get past the nursing strike, you should stop bottles. Give her your milk in an open cup so that she's not getting any sucking needs met without coming back to the breast.

-Angela
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If you want to get past the nursing strike, you should stop bottles. Give her your milk in an open cup so that she's not getting any sucking needs met without coming back to the breast.

-Angela
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no sippies, bottles, binkies. and your doctor is full of crap.
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Sorry your ped has been so unsupportive. I'd consider finding a new one.

You're getting some good advice on this thread--hang in there!
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Biting is probably from teething. She'll get over you scaring her. Just keep offering and have a plan for more bites/be on the watch. Nursing while she's sleeping might be an easy way to get back into it.

Your pedi probably just doesn't know anything about nursing a toddler, and probably expects you to be like 99% of the parents he talks with who wean at/by a year because cow's milk is a culturally acceptable substitute at that time. Doctors are great for medical advice, but for parenting and nursing advice, stick to moms who've BTDT.

Tjej
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no sippies, bottles, binkies. and your doctor is full of crap.

Yep yep. Teething. Offer to nurse as much as possible - don't scare her when you say no biting, and just be patient. Tell your doc to blow it our his/her a$$.
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There are explanations for babies biting when nursing; she might be done with the nursing session and wanting to play, she might be teething and looking for relief. You might try saying no biting and/or ending the nursing session if she shows signs that she doesn't want to nurse anymore.

There is no logical explanation for your pediatrician asking you to stop nursing cold turkey though. 13 months is way too early to wean.

GL
Without even reading the other replies, I'm going to say this: don't take breastfeeding advice from a ped. They're not trained in breastfeeding issues. Also, DS started biting (nipping, really) again once he hit about twelve months, and it's usually because he's done eating and trying to tell me so. I've learned to anticipate when he's done and let him go before he bites.
Just want to reiterate what alegna said because sometimes it can seem counter intuitive - but if you feel biting, push her in toward you, not pull her away from you. This will cause her to immediately let go.

My dd went thru a biting stage shortly before a year old. I would say "Owe! That hurts mommy! Dd needs to be gentle" Also, any time your dd bumps herself be sure to say "Owe, that hurts dd" so she learns what it means.

My dd thought it was funny at first and so I had to be a bit stern about it. I would immediately say "Owe! That hurts mommy. All done now". Then I'd actually put her down and turn my back on her for all of 2 or 3 seconds. I know, I know. This sounds terribly stern and mean, but it was the only thing that let her know I wasn't joking. If not she'd just laugh. She'd start to make a sort of fussy noise after 3 seconds or so and I'd pick her back up and say again "dd needs to be gentle" and we'd try nursing again. She learned really fast this way not to bite.

Of course, being this adamant about it might have the opposite affect on some kids and scare them into a nursing strike - really a matter of just knowing your baby.
While my dd tends to be very sensitive, she also has a huge sense of humor and she really genuinely thought the whole thing was funny at first.
at it now...

Hang in there! It will get better and you'll have a wonderful extended nursing relationship
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About nursing strikes from kellymom and about biting

Personally I found that offering DD something cold and hard to chew on for a few minutes before nursing really helped to stop the teething related biting.
Ok...I hope I haven't screwed things up too much. I have been regularly offering her the breast. She cries and won't nurse. I can tell she wants to nurse - she makes her little motions and mewing noises - but when I try to put her to the breast she cries. The only way I've been able to get her to stop crying is to give her milk in a bottle. She still has trouble drinking from a cup and can't drink from a sippy cup.

But now I'm having trouble pumping. Last night I didn't get any milk at all in one pumping session (which, btw, I really hate! It's the only thing about bf'ing I dislike); and when I tried again later I got only 1 ounce from each breast. This morning I don't even feel full so I'm worried my milk is drying up. I'm really worried this is the end for us.

Any ideas? It has been so helpful to hear from all of you. I really was ready to give up.
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Thats really hard. I would not give any more bottles and just keep offering. Does she nurse when sleepy or sleeping?
No...she won't even nurse during the night or when she's sleepy. That's one of the reasons I'm wondering if she's self weaning at this point. I have to give her some fluids and she doesn't drink well from a cup so I have to give her some fluids in the bottle. Ahhhh. I'm so confused!
First let me say I haven't went through this, but I so want to help and hope for you that you gals get past this. Some ideas-

Try not to be pushy or anxious when offering to nurse. I can see myself accidentally doing both in your shoes. I'd be a wreck. Just be really casual and let it go a second before she even answers, yk? Think of it as just letting her know she can if she wants. Can you go topless for a few days? Just let them hang free and be there so she can see them, touch them, smell them throughout the day during regular life. Take extra time to cuddle skin to skin as much as possible, if she likes being worn or carried, do it topless so she is next to them. Lots of women say lounging in the bath with babe helps. Do you co sleep? Sleep topless too! Those are my best ideas. And about the cup, my dd just started drinking from a cup. One day she had little to no interest and couldn't, the next day she figured it out and was guzzling from it. She has a Foogo sippy cup, but I don't put the spill proof valve in it. She'll also drink from my glass too. Have you tried a straw? Some people have a lot of luck with that too. Hang in there mama. I really don't think she's trying to self wean, it sounds like she wants to nurse but has an association with something that is keeping her from doing so, be it nervousness of your reaction or whatever.
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Thanks MissRubyandKen. I appreciate the support. I can't really do the bare breasted thing but I am trying to be very casual when I offer the breast. I'm worried that at this point my milk supply is going to dry up since the pumping no longer seems to work. And I have to say this forum is the only place I am getting any support around my concerns. Even my friends who bf'ed to a year (or until their kids 'self weaned' and 8 or 9 months) don't seem to think this is a big deal. Their attitude is "if she's done, she's done - you made it to a year". So I start to think I should stop worrying about it and just let her have the bottle. We have also tried the straw - no luck. But then I think...whoa...this will be permanent if we stop and I want that to be a considered choice, not something that happens because she bit me. Anyone have any thoughts on what to do since the pumping isn't working?
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