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why skim milk past 2?

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My just 2 year old has just started drinking some cow's milk in addition to her breast milk (my supply is gone due to pregnancy). I had been giving her the 2% we drink, but this week went and bought some whole milk just for her, on the premise that a cup a day of whole milk contains more fat and calories than a cup of 2% does.

What's the basis of the recommendation to change to skimmed milk at 2? Is it an obesity thing? And it is based on an assumption of a pretty bad diet to start with? Or a diet that's already got a lot of saturated fat? She eats no junk at all, not a huge amount of cheese or yoghurt, and very little meat. The meat she eats is lean. She's on the 15th percentile for weight, 50% for height - slight but healthy. I just feel that she needs a good source of fat in her diet since she gets so little, and is decreasing her nursing.

I know breastmilk just gets fattier and fattier as they get older. Surely I should try and mimic that with milk that's replacing her breastmilk? It's not like she's drinking three cups a day or anything, either.
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It's based on the erroneous belief that saturated fat is the devil.
: Stick with the whole milk, raw if you can get it.
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At my daughter's 2 y/o well child visit (she wasn't breastfed) they told me I could switch to 2%. However, because she has pretty much stayed the same weight for the past year and we don't see the harm, she still drinks whole milk. I hope this is the right thing to do! Fingers crossed!! At 2 1/2 she is still only 28 lbs (about)...I am not worried about her weight gain, that's for sure!!
Never heard of that, I was told whole milk only until 5 yo.
The info I have says
Whole milk until 2 yo
2% until 4 yo
then 1% or skim after that.
I don't use lowfat or skim milk at all. If I'm going to have milk, or feed it to my family, we're using whole milk. If you want to cut back on milkfat, drink less milk!!!

I don't buy the lowfat theories at all. America has been getting fatter and fatter when following the lowfat recomendations.
I would think whole milk is still fine unless your child has some issue with fats. whole milk fills them up better. My older child doesn't drink much milk, but I give her what we have on hand, and since I have a 16 month old, that's whole milk.
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I don't use lowfat or skim milk at all. If I'm going to have milk, or feed it to my family, we're using whole milk. If you want to cut back on milkfat, drink less milk!!!

I don't buy the lowfat theories at all. America has been getting fatter and fatter when following the lowfat recomendations.
Totally agree with Ruthla!!!
Yeah, do not follow all the advertising stuff, healthy wholesome foods are the best for children, teenagers and adults! Unless you have a fat issue naturally, but than I think you would have to look somewhere else first and than at the milk you are drinking anyway in my opinion.
Those full fatty foods are very good and healthy for your body as long as you do it sensibly, as with everything.
Go for it, indulge your child and family in rich, flavourful tasty meals and drinks!
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I try to eat foods that are as close to their natural form as possible. So, ideally that means whole milk from grass-fed cows, non-pasteurized (i.e., raw), and non-homogenized (homogenization actually changes the composition of milk, and how it is processed by your body).

In truth, I don't think humans are really designed to ingest dairy products (except for breastmilk of course!). If you think back to how we evolved as hunter-gatherers, there was bascially no opportunity to get the milk of other animals into our diet, since that requires domestication. That said, we still do dairy, although primarily in the form of cheese and yogurt. Because it tastes good, and nobody is perfect
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But I would definitely stick with the whole milk, just like whole wheat is better for you because it's closer to its natural form
. (Although that opens up a whole other can of worms, since wheat is also a domesticated crop, but I digress ...)
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DS still drinks whole at 26mths.. He's 30 lbs and 37inch.. So he's pretty lean..

I do water it down a little, as he won't drink enough water alone.
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So, ideally that means whole milk from grass-fed cows, non-pasteurized (i.e., raw), and non-homogenized (homogenization actually changes the composition of milk, and how it is processed by your body).

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So true. My DH cannot drink homogenized milk but non-homogenized organic milk is fine for him.

I don't buy into the "fat is bad" crowd. If a food has other nutrition to offer then who cares if it has fat, fat is actually what your body needs for tons of functions. My personal belief is that the skim milk recommendation is only beneficial for people who are getting a lot of fat in there overall diet (i.e. eating fast food a couple times of week, snacking on fatty snack foods, eating lots of meat, etc.) None of that is my son. His diet is high in fiber and starches and fruits, plus being a dairy fiend (yogurt, cheese, etc.). He also is slight for his age (will be 4yo in August and only weighs 31 lbs). We buy whole or 2% depending on which is freshest that day.

My brother and I get into fights about this issue when I visit. He didn't even want his girls to have whole milk under age 2 (but his wife made him). He is a total fat phobe, it drives me crazy!! That and he buys everything under the sun with artificial sweeteners, nasty!
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Originally Posted by moondiapers View Post
The info I have says
Whole milk until 2 yo
2% until 4 yo
then 1% or skim after that.
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According to our family doctor, the obesity epidemic drives the recommendation to switch to 2% milk at age 2. My DH and I are both thin and our DD doesn't have a bit of baby fat on her so the doctor told us to stick with the whole milk. The fat in whole milk is beneficial.
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DS still drinks whole at 26mths.. He's 30 lbs and 37inch.. So he's pretty lean..

I do water it down a little, as he won't drink enough water alone.
DS has the exact same measurements right now, our ped said nothing about switching to 2% and frankly I would have ignored her if she did, I sometimes worry my little guy is too skinny.

IMHO Americans tend to be overweight because of the food they eat that isn't food -- like candy, chips, you know, junk (that and a lack of exercise/driving instead of walking etc). Not because of milk.
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Um, yeah. My 4 year old still drinks whole milk. I don't think my ped has even asked about it. He weighs 33-35 lbs (small for his age/low percentile) and doesn't drink much milk anyway. I don't know when I'll ever switch him to 2%.
I give my 18 mo. old whole, unhomogenized milk in addition to breastmilk. My 4.5 yr. old and us grownups drink soymilk, and I'll switch the little guy at 2 or thereabouts. I would only keep him on whole if he was underweight. I think he gets plenty of fat in food-- he eats a whole lot and we use a lot of olive oil, avocados, and cheese.
I had never heard of the skim-milk-after-2 thing until our most recent visit to the pedi. She (the pedi) told me since DD is 5% on the weight charts that we can keep giving whole milk. It hadn't occurred to me to do otherwise!
Many Drs just follow guide lines that aren't tailored to individuals.

Way too many american toddlers sit in front of the TV, are mesmerized into "quiet" time by blinky toys and spend hours strapped in to strollers. These children aren't getting enough excercise to burn off all the calories in whole milk.

If your DC is getting lots of excercise playing she will burn off the fat in whole milk no problem.
Also, I would like to point out that big-industry dairy has a vested interest in having everyone drink lower-fat milk, since that means that they can extract more cream from the milk, charge the same amount for that milk, then put the cream into "high value-added" products like ice cream, which sells for considerably more than straight milk.

It is MUCH more profitable for large-scale dairies for people to drink low-fat milk and eat lots of ice cream. Bear in mind that ANYTHING that official government sources say about dairy has been influenced to a large extent by dairy lobbyists, and that most "studies" regarding dairy intake are funded by the dairy industry.

I say, feed your kids whole (preferably raw pastured) milk and make your own ice cream, and grill your doctor about where exactly he/she got his facts.
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
I don't use lowfat or skim milk at all. If I'm going to have milk, or feed it to my family, we're using whole milk. If you want to cut back on milkfat, drink less milk!!!

I don't buy the lowfat theories at all. America has been getting fatter and fatter when following the lowfat recomendations.
: I stopped eating/drinking "light" or "lowfat" 3 years ago. I've never been healthier.
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