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I am looking for experience with Women for Women's Health the midwife group in Forest Park that delivers at Western Suburban. Thank you! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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They are really good-the Midwives are all very respectful and supportive of natural childbirth. I went to them for the first part of my pregnancy and liked the midwives-however the office staff is another story. I usually waited about 2 hours for my appointments-and some of their office staff were really unprofessional. I ended up switching to West Suburban Midwives Associates and delivered with them. They are really great-and their office staff is much more professional.
 

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This was the midwife group I used for ds' unmedicated birth in the ABC room.<br><br>
I liked each midwife and never had much of wait to see them but that was in 2005. They always had plently of time to talk during appts. They supported my use of acupuncture, chiro, herbs, homeopathy, never hassled me about starting off a bit chubby or pulled the "big baby" card. I have no experience with their OBs.<br><br>
They were always upfront with me about allowing moms to go only 42wks and insisted on scheduling a cervadil/pit induction about a week prior to the induction. This caused me so much stress. (btw, I "neglected" to make that appt.)<br><br>
This old thread might helpful for you.<br><br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=761429" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=761429</a>
 

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Thank you, I have read that thread. So you had the midwives out of the Forest Park/River Forest office?<br><br>
After reading the threads on West Sub -- I think I feel good about the West Sub midwives but I am concerned about the hospital.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Thank you, I have read that thread. So you had the midwives out of the Forest Park/River Forest office?</div>
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That right. I was with Shirley Moore's CNM group called Women for Women's Health in Forest Park on Madison.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Yeah, the idea of the ABC room was certainly better than the actual experience. It feels old and run down but I'll take it if means the staff is supportive of natural childbirth.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yeah, the idea of the ABC room was certainly better than the actual experience. It feels old and run down but I'll take it if means the staff is supportive of natural childbirth.</div>
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I hear ya. My problems with the hospital are:<br><br>
1. Post partum care appears to be spotty.<br>
2. It appears there may be hold ups concerning discharge (even though the midwives promised me 6 hours if all was okay and a ped saw my baby).<br>
3. The entire check in process -- going through the ER -- that really frustrates me.<br><br>
I am facing potential finacial issues so I do not know if I can risk going out of pocket for a home birth. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> And I live in OP, so *ugh* it is just a hard choice (and I really really really hate triaging while in labor).
 

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I actually had a good experience at the hospital. I did have to be induced due to being GBS positive and having my water break. The nurses during my labor were really good-the first one was horrible- but she was switched within 3 hours of me getting there. I was supported very well the entire time. I did not go to the ABC room however, and I had to stay 48 hours as on top of a horrible labor, I ended up with a C-Section (nothing to do with the midwives-I was in labor for 51 hours, and pushed for 3 hours, and my baby did not budge-so I asked for the C-section).<br><br>
My concerns with the hospital are this:<br><br>
1) I hated having to go in through the ER-however in hindsight, I could have just gone up to the 6th floor-I don't think they would have turned me away. However they automatically send you to labor and delivery when you go the ER.<br><br>
2) I think that the hospital is terribly understaffed. The nurse I had PP seemed like she was really busy. She was really nice-but I could tell she had alot of people to take care of. I was also there December 23rd and 24th-so that might have had something to do with it.<br><br>
3) My son's pediatrician was not called-and I had to deal with a AWFUL pediatrician-who was just plain stupid. It was because I have an HMO and PPO-my son's doc is through a PPO, and I was using the HMO. The nurse did not understand this-and I was too out of it the day of my C-section to really care.<br><br>
4. I was asked about 5 times about circumcision. I had to keep declining. I even had someone enter my room and offer to take my son to get circumcised. It was annoying-and after the 5th time, I said that it was the 5th time I declined a circumcision-they stopped asking after that.<br><br>
The good things were this (some were due to my MW's though).<br>
Despite these things, I had a good experience. I was left with my baby and partner-if I needed something I got it quickly. My choices were respected, and I was supported in breastfeeding. I did however not let my son out of my sight-as I was paranoid about someone giving him a bottle-nobody did.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I hear ya. My problems with the hospital are:<br><br>
1. Post partum care appears to be spotty.<br>
2. It appears there may be hold ups concerning discharge (even though the midwives promised me 6 hours if all was okay and a ped saw my baby).<br>
3. The entire check in process -- going through the ER -- that really frustrates me.</div>
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PP I remember us being alone most of the time except for the Lactation Councelor (no longer there <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry">) helping with bf-ing, a mw/ped visit and housekeeping. The nurses seemed mia but I was happy to be left alone w/dh & ds.<br><br>
We came in the middle of the night and left later that day only after asking 2-3 times to be discharged. This was definitely delayed.<br><br>
Yup, going through ER & L&D triage in labor (after transition and feeling pushing) was THE WORST!!!!!! I really can't express how horrible it was to be subjected to hospital policy and testing when I was ready to birth my baby. I was outraged as in seeing red with the triage nurse. While I knew this was part of the deal with a hospital birth and still wouldn't consider going in earlier, I just didn't really know how much it would suck. This is one of my reasons for a HB next time.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">I am facing potential finacial issues so I do not know if I can risk going out of pocket for a home birth. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> And I live in OP, so *ugh* it is just a hard choice (and I really really really hate triaging while in labor).</td>
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Yeah, I hate that HB can be financially prohibitive for people because insurance doens't always cover it. I am sorry you are in the position.<br><br>
RE: Triage<br>
I might suggest bringing rescue remedy with you to support emotional and energetic recovery from triage. Hopefullly, it will help you regain the birthing energy fostered at home and get you back to business of labor and birth.
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">I actually had a good experience at the hospital. I did have to be induced due to being GBS positive and having my water break. The nurses during my labor were really good-the first one was horrible- but she was switched within 3 hours of me getting there. I was supported very well the entire time. I did not go to the ABC room however, and I had to stay 48 hours as on top of a horrible labor, I ended up with a C-Section (nothing to do with the midwives-I was in labor for 51 hours, and pushed for 3 hours, and my baby did not budge-so I asked for the C-section).</td>
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This is an interesting thought. Really there's no reason to be in the ER at this hospital and walking to elevators to get the 6th floor would have been better for me.<br><br><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">4. I was asked about 5 times about circumcision. I had to keep declining. I even had someone enter my room and offer to take my son to get circumcised. It was annoying-and after the 5th time, I said that it was the 5th time I declined a circumcision-they stopped asking after that.</td>
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This is so AWFUL!!!! The decision to not circ and decline vaxes were remembered by the nurses.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Despite these things, I had a good experience. I was left with my baby and partner-if I needed something I got it quickly. My choices were respected, and I was supported in breastfeeding. I did however not let my son out of my sight-as I was paranoid about someone giving him a bottle-nobody did.</td>
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I agree, the new baby should always be accompanied by the partner.
 

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I am not too concerned about a lactation consultant for me -- for others us it bothers me they do not have one -- but for me, this will be my 4th child that I breastfed -- I got it down. Also, I have found that the lactation consultants at the hospitals I have been to previously -- Prentice in Chicago and then Carle Hospital in Urbana (better than others) -- not that helpful. Books and the internet and then friends have been the most helpful and of course hired private LCs. I hope I am not dooming myself by saying this -- this will be the one time I need an LC. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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I might suggest bringing rescue remedy with you to support emotional and energetic recovery from triage. Hopefullly, it will help you regain the birthing energy fostered at home and get you back to business of labor and birth.</div>
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What is rescue remedy? At Prentice, I went through traige in transition and I never recovered. The pain overtook me b/c of the stress and interference and I could not get back on track. I still have nightmares about it. I seriously was in fear of each contraction and by then I had no breaks in between my contractions b/c I was in transition and they were double peaking -- I CANNOT do that again.<br><br>
I have heard about just going to the 6th Floor, that is a good suggestion. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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I understand completely how going thru triage can ruin your positive birthing energy and just mess up all the work (labor) you've done. You can't do this again. But you won't; you will be prepared for this if you choose to birth in a hospital.<br><br>
Rescue rescue is a combination of Bach Flower essences that work energetically within the body and are not harmful to the baby nor will contraindicate any medicines you may be taking. You can find it at any HFS and my friends and I swear by it for stressful situations. I've even given it to my son. Could it have a bit of a placebo effect? Maybe, but that is powerful too if by taking this stuff helps quell ugly feelings.<br><br>
Here are a couple of websites to read a bit more about it.<br><a href="http://www.bachflower.com/Rescue_Remedy.htm" target="_blank">http://www.bachflower.com/Rescue_Remedy.htm</a><br><a href="http://www.scientificblogging.com/news/does_rescue_remedy_work_for_anxiety_yes_says_study" target="_blank">http://www.scientificblogging.com/ne...yes_says_study</a><br><br>
Would you consider a doula? Once you decide where you will have the baby, maybe the mw can meet you to support you during the triage stage....
 

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Hi, I just wanted to jump in and say that I started off going to the midwives on Madison in Forest Park but had a terrible time with the office staff, nurses, etc... I work fulltime and already have a toddler at home so I could not stand waiting 45-90 min for appointments.<br><br>
I found this group in Willowbrook who deliver at the Hindsdale hospital:<br><a href="http://www.westsuburbanwomenshealth.com/" target="_blank">http://www.westsuburbanwomenshealth.com/</a><br><br>
I'm seeing the midwives. The office is great!!<br>
Good luck!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">At Prentice, I went through traige in transition and I never recovered. The pain overtook me b/c of the stress and interference and I could not get back on track. I still have nightmares about it. I seriously was in fear of each contraction and by then I had no breaks in between my contractions b/c I was in transition and they were double peaking -- I CANNOT do that again.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"></div>
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I keep coming back to this thread because I really hear how horrible triage for you and I really, really don't want you or other reading this to experience this trauma.<br><br>
I am thinking of posting something on B&B about this.<br><br>
Would you consider some cranial-sacral therapy to help release what you are holding about triage? Or consider doing a Birthing from Within birthstory to work thru this, get questions answers. If you need a reference, pm me. I worry about you bringing this with you into your next labor.
 

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Pmed you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I am not too concerned about a lactation consultant for me -- for others us it bothers me they do not have one -- but for me, this will be my 4th child that I breastfed -- I got it down. Also, I have found that the lactation consultants at the hospitals I have been to previously -- Prentice in Chicago and then Carle Hospital in Urbana (better than others) -- not that helpful. Books and the internet and then friends have been the most helpful and of course hired private LCs. I hope I am not dooming myself by saying this -- this will be the one time I need an LC. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent"></div>
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The first night I was there I did meet with a LC. One of the head nurses is a LC. She wasn't all that helpful-but I was having trouble latching-and asked for my nurse to come help me. She came instead and worked with me for about 30 minutes. She helped me for what I needed at the time.
 
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