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This study hasn't been published in a peer-reviewed journal yet, but looking at their findings, it doesn't sound like they quite got this whole HPV vaccine thing down yet. Anyone want to venture a guess as to why vaccinated women would have a higher prevalence of other high-risk HPV strains?

Women who receive the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine may be more likely to be infected with certain high-risk strains of the virus than women who do not get the vaccine, according to a new study. The findings suggest that, although the vaccine is effective in protecting against four strains of HPV, women who received it may still benefit from getting another, recently approved HPV vaccine that protects against nine strains of the virus, the researchers said.
Women in the study who received the Gardasil vaccine were, indeed, less likely to be infected with the four strains of the virus included the vaccine: About 11 percent of vaccinated women were infected with HPV 6, 11, 16 or 18, compared with nearly 20 percent of unvaccinated women. However, the women who received the vaccine were more likely to be infected with other high-risk HPV strains not included in the vaccine. About 61 percent of the women who received the vaccine were infected with another type of high-risk HPV, compared with 40 percent of women who did not receive the vaccine. (HPV strains are considered "high risk" if they can cause cellular changes that can eventually lead to cancer.)
http://www.livescience.com/50563-hpv-vaccine-infections-prevalence.html
 

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This was brought forward in another thread as an example of honest science. See, when a vaccine causes problems we find it and we admit it...and we recommend another vaccine!
 

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I do find it irritating that finding this huge problem occurred right after a new version of the vaccine was released. Look! We screwed up, but it is okay, the new vaccine fixes the problem. Of course it doesn't. Five years from now they'll be releasing Gardasil 15 and someone will conveniently discover that there are 5 strains that are madly proliferating which just happen to be the ones not covered by Gardasil 9 but which ARE covered by Gardasil 15.

And someone else will call it good science and bring it forward as evidence of an honest vaccination system.
 

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I do find it irritating that finding this huge problem occurred right after a new version of the vaccine was released. Look! We screwed up, but it is okay, the new vaccine fixes the problem. Of course it doesn't. Five years from now they'll be releasing Gardasil 15 and someone will conveniently discover that there are 5 strains that are madly proliferating which just happen to be the ones not covered by Gardasil 9 but which ARE covered by Gardasil 15.

And someone else will call it good science and bring it forward as evidence of an honest vaccination system.
That is the problem I'm having with this. The timing of recommending the 9-strain HPV vaccine that was recently approved is impeccable to the timing of discovering this finding. Something does not seem right.
 

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That is the problem I'm having with this. The timing of recommending the 9-strain HPV vaccine that was recently approved is impeccable to the timing of discovering this finding. Something does not seem right.
Both of us are members of the tin-foil hat brigade. Science timed to come out just in time to help sell a new vaccine is coincidence...not manipulation.
 
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