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Hi All, I have the opportunity to buy an earth-bermed, passive solar home. There are one and two story windows that are insulated & south facing, which provide most of the heating needed, along with a wood burning stove for super cold days. It's 33 years old, lots of lovely gardening space, has gorgeous scenery (woods in back, ravine in front), and is very unique. I feel like we could be very imaginative, playful, and creative there. (The kitchen kicks the butt of every kitchen I've ever seen. Seriously.)

The downsides: it's on a semi-busy street, there are no sidewalks, it's not part of a neighborhood (sad for prospects of friends/playmates for all of the family...), it needs serious interior design help (built in the late 80's and has kinda stayed there...), and the design is "upside down" with bedrooms on the first floor and kitchen/living/etc on the second floor, which I think is why it hasn't sold before now. (It's been on the market for over a year, & has gone down $75,000 - I just don't think people are willing to take risks in this market!)

It is structurally sound, but needs some wood trim replaced outside, which is probably the biggest and most immediate project. It has an oversized garage, super efficient appliances and water lines (no water source is more than 10 feet from the water heater), is 5 beds, and is 3800 sq. ft. It really is amazing. We love it, but we're worried that we wouldn't be able to sell it again if we needed to.

Would you take this? What are your thoughts? We would buy this tomorrow if we were more confident... we have a 2nd showing on Monday.

Thanks for your thoughts!
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Hi All, I have the opportunity to buy an earth-bermed, passive solar home. There are one and two story windows that are insulated & south facing, which provide most of the heating needed, along with a wood burning stove for super cold days. It's 33 years old, lots of lovely gardening space, has gorgeous scenery (woods in back, ravine in front), and is very unique. I feel like we could be very imaginative, playful, and creative there. (The kitchen kicks the butt of every kitchen I've ever seen. Seriously.)

The downsides: it's on a semi-busy street, there are no sidewalks, it's not part of a neighborhood (sad for prospects of friends/playmates for all of the family...), it needs serious interior design help (built in the late 80's and has kinda stayed there...), and the design is "upside down" with bedrooms on the first floor and kitchen/living/etc on the second floor, which I think is why it hasn't sold before now. (It's been on the market for over a year, & has gone down $75,000 - I just don't think people are willing to take risks in this market!)

It is structurally sound, but needs some wood trim replaced outside, which is probably the biggest and most immediate project. It has an over sized garage, super efficient appliances and water lines (no water source is more than 10 feet from the water heater), is 5 beds, and is 3800 sq. ft. It really is amazing. We love it, but we're worried that we wouldn't be able to sell it again if we needed to.

Would you take this? What are your thoughts? We would buy this tomorrow if we were more confident.
I wouldn't if you're worried about having to resell it. Just the fact that you're not feeling confident makes me think this isn't the right home for you. I think you'll still find something with all the unique and energy efficient features you are searching for. I think you're right about the upside down layout being a problem for selling, but more likely it hasn't sold for aesthetic reasons (interior design) which I don't think matter. Most likely, it hasn't sold because of the stat of our economy. Not many people are in a position to buy a house.

I wouldn't buy a home with a wood stove because of my asthma. I would be afraid of the danger of my young kids near a ravine and semi-busy street with no sidewalk. But then again, I couldn't even buy a house if the actual price was only $75,000! so I can't imagine what that much off the price means, value-wise.
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The actual value is 261,000 according to the auditor's site - they're now down to asking 200,000.

This house is like crack. The first time we looked, it's all we thought about for a week, until we decided not to think about it anymore. Now that we're looking at it again, it's all we're thinking of again!

Our other choice right now is a move right in, completely finished, completely white bread 4 bed 2.5 bath house. It's 2000 sq ft (plus a finished basement), all newly painted, in a neighborhood with sidewalks. But it's dull. Not a neat yard. But it is fenced, on a not busy at all street. Tons of kids in the neighborhood.

We've talked to neighbors of both houses, and they all love the place they live. Man, this is tough.
Gosh, I'd be picking the dull, family friendly house and add my personal touch of excitement to it, such as installing solar panels, or a sunroom/greenhouse.
I'd go with the solar house. I live in the 'perfect' neighborhood, cookiecutter blah house, and I long for something with a bit more variety.
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(The kitchen kicks the butt of every kitchen I've ever seen. Seriously.)
sold! but i spend a lot of time cooking and gardening.
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the house sounds absolutely amazing to me. i would love a unique house like that, a one in a million.
the kitchen alone would sell me too.
Neighbors don't always make great friends. Go for the space that speaks to you and will make you happiest.
I would, but I grew up in a earth berm house. LOVED it. Seriously. I'd love to live in one again someday. It sounds amazing to me!
For me there would be other things to think about, are you homeschooling or sending the kids to school if so where and what differences does the 2 houses (or the other one out there you haven't found yet) have to offer in terms of distance, quality... same with your or your parterner's job, how will these houses come into play?

Do you need/want 5 bedrooms?

Are you worried that you may need to resell it soon, 5 years or so or long term, 20 years plus... why would you need to resell? because you guys would want something different or a job change that you had to move across country for with little time to get your ducks in row.

We just bought a house in Dec. a sidewalk old neighborhood. That was a big thing on our list though, the sidewalk. We were moving from the rural country to town for better schools and my thought was if i was going to give up the woods, wildlife and creek that I wanted a sidewalk, so subdivision or side street really appealed to me. Only 1 place came close and it did not have the sidewalk but it had over an acre of land in city limits with mature fruit trees out back, stopping point there was the possible asbestos walls and exterior...
The one thing on our "this is what we would want in a house" list was no garage/outside building for storage/workspace. That was more hubby's department and I think he gave that up more for me because the house we found had all the check marks besides the things that were important for me.

Look at what your and your families priorities are and base your descision on that.

Can the semi busy road issue be resolved with a fence?

what can be done to the dull house to give it character? could you do gardens in the yard to make the outside more friendly? what about the inside, even if it is in perfect move in condition, what touches could you add to make it more yours
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I would ask to see 12 months (or more) of electric and utility bills - you want to know what you are getting in for, make sure it really does have a lower cost of ownership. Make sure the house was occupied for the time period you are looking at the bills.

Do all of the bedrooms have legal egress windows based on current code?

Do you have a good home inspector lined up for it? An IR camera during the home inspection might be useful to look for water leaks. Ask about expected cost of trim replacement.

Ask the township if there are any expansion plans for the "busy road" right now. People with earth bermed houses usually want a more private location. Depending on the exact layout, you may be able to use landscaping and earth berms to decrease traffic noise. If you would need fencing to keep your kids safe, factor that into your cost of the purchase.

I think you can offer substantially less than the current asking price and have a chance of it being accepted. The less you pay for the house today, the easier it will be to sell in the future.
Good luck!

Suburban tract houses can also be made interesting, though passive solar AND a ravine is hard to beat.
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You already fell in love with the berm house and mentally started moving yourselves in - buy it as long as financially you can afford it and you like the school system for your kids.

Most people don't realize that they may be responsible for their own sidewalks. In older neighborhoods, the residents had to install their own sidewalks and maintain them. (That is why we have the term "city sidewalks" it means that the city or developer installed the sidewalks vs the homeowners).

Once you move in, you can petition the city for sidewalks in your areas as long as you don't mind your taxes going up (yes, everything has a price) OR, you can go to your neighbors and see if you can start a community neighborhood to cut a pathway and create a natural "sidewalk" made out of recycled materials or wood chips.

The house sounds lovely and as with all houses, will need repairs and maint. If you have concerns about a specific item or area (wood stove leaking, age of roof, etc.) just hire an expert in that area. I personally don't hold much respect for "home inspectors" since they work off a check list and can't really tell you much other than, "I think the roof is 20 years old based on the fact that the shingles are older and the house is 20 years old".

A roofer would be able to tell you on the spot. Ditto a plumber for plumbing probs, etc.

Best of luck in your new home. - You would have HATED the new house plus it had 1800 sq feet less.
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