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Worth taking the twenty minutes to listen:<br><br>
"More than 1,500 U.S. military personnel have died in Iraq since the U.S. invasion began two years ago, but nearly four times as many have been wounded in combat too seriously to return to duty.<br><br>
"For the first time in American history, a substantial number of the combat wounded are women -- in part because the front lines in this war can be anywhere."<br><br>
More here:<br><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4534450" target="_blank">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4534450</a>
 

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One of them is my daughter.<br><br>
Please keep her in your prayers.<br><br>
Debra Baker<br><br>
Editing for clarity, she's serving in Iraq she isn't wounded (thank G-d)
 

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<b>Stresses of battle hit female GIs hard</b><br><br>
"This is what is different about this war," Lt. Col. Richard Rael, commander of the 515th Corps Support Battalion, said of the scene at the time. "Women are fighting it. Women under my command have confirmed kills. These little wisps of things are stronger than anyone could ever imagine and taking on more than most Americans could ever know."<br><br>
"But today, two years after the start of an Iraq war in which traditional front lines were virtually obliterated and women were tasked to fill lethal combat roles more routinely than in any conflict in U.S. history, the nation may be just beginning to see and feel the effects of such service.<br><br>
"Thousands of women, like the male veterans of so many wars before, are returning home emotionally damaged by what they have seen and done. These female troops appear more prone to post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, than their male counterparts."<br><br>
More here:<br><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2027&u=/chitribts/20050320/ts_chicagotrib/stressesofbattlehitfemalegishard&printer=1" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...hard&printer=1</a>
 

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<b>More women bear wounds of war</b><br><br>
"On June 19, Lt. Dawn Halfaker and soldiers from her military police platoon were on a reconnaissance patrol in Baqouba, Iraq, when a rocket-propelled grenade exploded inside their armored Humvee, grievously wounding two of the soldiers inside.<br><br>
"Dazed and covered in blood, Halfaker mustered the energy to give an order to her driver. "Get out of the kill zone!" she shouted. Halfaker's right arm was loosely connected to her torso.<br><br>
"In the front passenger seat, Staff Sgt. Norberto Lara was in worse shape. His right arm, Halfaker remembers, was severed, a devastating but not mortal wound.<br><br>
"Six days later, Halfaker was a patient at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, about to lose her arm to a life-threatening infection."<br><br>
More here:<br><a href="http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/May/01/ln/ln11p.html" target="_blank">http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar.../ln/ln11p.html</a>
 

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My daughter said one of her buddies was shot in the *neck* and had the presence of mind to put pressure on the wound and seek care.<br><br>
He was in Landsthul(sp) when she emailed me to ask for prayer for him and his family.<br><br>
Apparently he will make a full recovery.<br><br>
A miracle.<br><br>
He is one of the lucky ones.<br><br>
DB
 

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Oh, OT, Rowans Dad,<br><br>
I have a History final today. Essay form and the Prof. gave us the questions ahead of time. One of them is which of the wars we fought would I have fought and which would I have not fought and why.<br><br>
I am planning on using your siggy line quote to start the essay.<br><br>
Thank you for posting it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy"><br><br>
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You are very welcome. I am quite fond of that crumugeon John Adams. I am pretty sure he was refering to the very new U.S. avoiding a war with its former ally France.<br><br>
If you ever get a chance, check out David McCullough's biography:<br><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fexec%2Fobidos%2FASIN%2F0743223136%2Fqid%3D1115045227%2Fsr%3D2-1%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_b_2_1%2F104-0998951-4556753" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...998951-4556753</a>. Also, his wife Abigail was a unsung chick hero: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fexec%2Fobidos%2Ftg%2Fdetail%2F-%2F074323443X%2Fref%3Dpd_sbs_b_1%2F104-0998951-4556753%3F_encoding%3DUTF8%26v%3Dglance" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...=UTF8&v=glance</a>. Any young kids (sixth grad and up) would do well to check this book out too: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fexec%2Fobidos%2FASIN%2F0689819161%2Fqid%3D1115045397%2Fsr%3D2-4%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_b_2_4%2F104-0998951-4556753" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...998951-4556753</a>. Neighbors daughter was recently gushing about it.<br><br>
All the best to your daughter Debra.
 

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Abigail *rocked* and Q :LOL was an underrated Prez (had something to do with not getting the popular vote.<br><br>
Crumudgon, nah.<br><br>
You're right France and Britain for what would become the War of 1812. We could have avoided that one as well.<br><br>
Sigh.<br><br>
DB
 
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