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WTH is so darn great about Baby Einstein??

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I may have to put DS in PT daycare, so I spent today touring a few centers close by that I'd heard were good. Two of them I actually sorta liked, but the big fly in the ice cream for me is that they have the babies sit and watch Baby Einstein videos! WTH? Did they not read the AAP recommendation that babies under 2yo should not have ANY screen time??

The first center, they *only* watch one video per day, or so the director told me. She said they turn it on in the morning to get the kids (0-18mo) to "wind down" before lunch. They turned it on while we were there, and the teachers herded the kids over to sit in front of the tv while it was on. If a kid got up to play, s/he was herded right back over to sit in front of the tv. Luckily DS wasn't that interested in it, so he just played with the toys while it was on. The director went on and on about how "that Disney guy has really got something with these Baby Einstein videos!" ugh!!

The other center, the babies were just waking up from naps and having a snack (also 0-18mo room.) A BE video was on while we were in there, and the director was going on and on about the signing videos they use in this classroom with the babies. I told her we don't watch TV at home, and she said, "oh we only do the signing videos and the Baby Einstein, it's not like they watch Barney or anything like that, and this TV doesn't even get "regular" tv!"
: So I asked her how often the videos are on, and apparently they do at least one signing video per day, PLUS they put Baby Einstein on for naps and at least one other time per day!!! WTH?

AARRGGHH! My mom just looked at pretty much all the centers in the area for my sister's kids a few months ago, and these were the only two that were reasonably priced and seemed ok for DS, and now they're out too since there's no way I'm letting DS rot his brain in front of the tv all day!
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ita with you. that would be a deal-breaker for me as well.

hope that you are able to find a great place for your dc.
Oh no! I am so with you on the tv. We have a baby einstein video and I'm just not sure what makes it more educational than CSI Miami.
I actually DID let my dd's watch Signing Time, but I don't get the appeal of Baby Einstein at all. I don't think ST is good exactly, and I know all about the AAP, so I really waffled, but it is so good, and it was a good way to stimulate language development. She did really pick them up from ST. Of course, I also nursed in front of Law and Order, but that's another story....
ughh...I hate baby einstien
: I hope you find a care solution that works and doesn't involve tv.
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It says "Einstein," so, you know, that means it's smart. 'Cause Einstein was a flippin' genius. And it says it's educational, so that makes it a good thing, right?


In reality, people just. don't. think. It is far easier to believe the commercials that insinuate you'll make your kid smarter by having him watch this educational stuff. After all, didn't we all watch Sesame Street & learn stuff from it? I know I'll never forget how peanut butter is made.
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I think if you keep looking, you'll find daycares without tv. My DD1 was in two different daycares in her life (and in a preschool within a daycare center now), and neither had any tv. The first was a larger in-home day care, and the second (and current) is a bigger chain center. This bigger one does a movie with the older (3.5 yo and older) kids about two or three times a year, and all the parents have to sign a permission slip to allow their kids to see it. If a kid isn't permitted to watch it, that kid gets to go to a different classroom and play while the movie is showing.

I agree with the PPs who said they would avoid a center with TV as a part of the regular day schedule. There's just no reason for it.
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Originally Posted by Sagesgirl
It says "Einstein," so, you know, that means it's smart. 'Cause Einstein was a flippin' genius. And it says it's educational, so that makes it a good thing, right?


In reality, people just. don't. think. It is far easier to believe the commercials that insinuate you'll make your kid smarter by having him watch this educational stuff. After all, didn't we all watch Sesame Street & learn stuff from it? I know I'll never forget how peanut butter is made.

*snicker*

I personally loved the crayon factory segment on Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood. But I can't stand BE.

My former boss is nuts about BE, her kid has like all the videos and tons of their books and toys, so guess what we got as new-baby gifts? I'm a classically-trained pianist and soprano, so we have lots of real classical CDs around the house not to mention I'm always playing and singing to dd.....I bought ONE BE CD that had what I thought was a nice selection of classical pieces, only to get home, turn it on and find that rather than the original instrumentation everything was done melody-only on a vibraphone! I guess they didn't look more deeply into those studies on how classical music affects brain development to realize it's all about the structure and phrasing, not the friggin' melody line!

(taking off my music-snob hat now!
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Originally Posted by fiddledebi
I think if you keep looking, you'll find daycares without tv.
Well I did find one other daycare that didn't have tv in the toddler rooms, but unfortunately there was quite a list of other stuff I didn't like about it, plus it was 2x as much tuition. grr.

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Originally Posted by grumpyshoegirl
I bought ONE BE CD that had what I thought was a nice selection of classical pieces, only to get home, turn it on and find that rather than the original instrumentation everything was done melody-only on a vibraphone! I guess they didn't look more deeply into those studies on how classical music affects brain development to realize it's all about the structure and phrasing, not the friggin' melody line!

(taking off my music-snob hat now! )
LOL we bought ONE BE CD as well. It had some songs we had played during our wedding ceremony so I thought it'd be neat for DS to hear them. Gah it was awful! We listened to it exactly once and I thought WTF? You don't need to be a music snob to see that is just plain wrong.
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I'm not sure what's in your area, and what you've checked out so far. But I just had to find a daycare for my almost two year old. I checked out almost everyone in the city, and none of them impressed me. They all did things (like have kids watch tv) that I didn't feel comfortable with. Then out of desperation, I checked out a daycare/school run by my local evangelist (sp?) church. They are everything I could hope for in a daycare and so wonderful with the babies and kids (plus no tv and lots of outdoor time). Honestly I never considered them because of it being a christian school and I'm Pagan. But I love it there so much, I'm really glad that I went and checked it out. Maybe there's a school you didn't check out for various reasons that you could give another chance too? Good luck with finding something.
My mom was a single mom, and when I was in elementary school I had to stay at daycare for a few hours after school. I NEVER remember there being a TV there. The teachers always had things for us to do, and much of the time was spent outside in their playground. Heck I even remember preschool- again NO tv. However, it was common, in fact a little too common, that my elementary school would bring everyone into the auditorium to watch the latest Disney flick at the end of the day. This was a public school too. Oh yes, and my 9th grade science teacher was Bill Nye the Science Guy. I'm not kidding! The "teacher" practically had us watch that show at least twice a week. *sigh* I guess no one has time for creativity or human interaction anymore.
Ugh! Couldn't a person lead the children in some calming activity at that time?

Now that said, I did choose a daycare for my son (who was 5) that included one video in the afternoon (about 1/2 hour). It was an in-home daycare run by a wonderful provider who simply needed to occupy the children who didn't nap while she put the nappers down to sleep. It was two blocks from my older child's school, a wonderful place to be, and so I saw it as a trade-off.
wow, the center i work at isnt allowed tv (6 weeks-kindergarten), although the sas program (school age services-1-5 grades)has computers, tv w/ x box and game cube, game boys, etc

i was in daycare only once, when i was in 2nd grade, and i remember sitting in a darkened room watching cartoons before school.... wed watch tv, eat breakfast, then watch more til it was time for school. i dont remember ever watching tv after school though
I don't have kids in DC but my friend has her baby in one and they have NO TV. There's no reason for it, I would look further.
I'd be sure to voice your opinion to the daycare with TV...make it known that you'd love to enroll your child there, but you feel that for an infant especially, watching TV is entirely inappropriate.

Let them know they're losing customers over it- see how important it is to them then!
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yowza.

i dont get the appeal, honestly. if you must use the tv as a babysitter, why not go ahead and use something good.... a video of shakespeare or something!


frankly, if you want to entrance ds, turn on the ball game.
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yowza.

i dont get the appeal, honestly. if you must use the tv as a babysitter, why not go ahead and use something good.... a video of shakespeare or something!


I'd rather have my kid understand 10% of Hamlet than 100% of Teletubbies.

A good Shakespeare for kids: Midsummer Night's Dream, with Michelle Pfeiffer.
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My goodness, what did we do before Baby Einstein? No wonder we're all stupid. I'm glad there's hope for our children, thanks to the good old boob tube.

Wait a minute, on MDC, I wonder if *Boob Tube* should take on a different meaning, you know, since we all love boobs here, right? Shouldn't waste such a great term on that brain rotting device.
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I worked in a dc for a couple of months and there wasn't t.v. in my room (6weeks - 12 months), however, they did have t.v. in every room starting at age 2.
: They used it way to much imho. What's sad is that no parents complained and most were glad b/c their kids "love to watch t.v!".


I also was a nanny for a little boy for over a year (from age 8 weeks to about 14 months). This was right when all the BE stuff was coming out. His mom fell in love with it. They had around 15 of the dvd's and at least that many of the books. His toy box was full of those crappy toys (which were in no way educational). I would get there at 9am and he would be in the swing or bouncy seat about a few feet in front of a huge t.v (a big screen, maybe 60") watching a dvd. She would put it on repeat and then take a shower, eat, get ready, whatever. She would tell me to just leave him there watching until he got fussy or tired of it! I'm sure when she was there on weekends he was there for hours. I took him out asap and *gasp* actually played with him!

I hate that stuff and I feel sorry for all the poor babies that have to be exposed to that crap!
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