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My doctor called in a prescription for an anti-fungal cream after looking at my son's diaper rash, and she also mentioned that there are many herbal anti-fungals and it would be fine for me to use one of those. I didn't ask her for the name/brand of any of those options, or if there was one in particular she would recommend.

Does anyone happen to know of any products like this? And in particular, ones used for babies?

What about something like a Grapefruit Seed Extract solution? Or something else (tea tree oil, maybe)?

I am looking for any input/recommendation.
 

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we've had quite the battle with yeast, grapeseed oil is good, so is coconut oil from what i've heard. vinegar water (1:4 ratio) wipe solution. lots and lots of naked time, preferably out in the direct sun light if that's an option for you. i found that mixing a zinc based cream with my anti fungal helped a lot. oh, putting yogurt directly on the rash is also good, as is mixing probiotics into whatever you're putting on it. oatmeal baths are soothing for itchy privates too. Good luck! HTH!
 

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Coconut oil is a great antifungal and works very well on things like that: I would apply it externally and add some to his food

Give probiotics (in food or milk), since the yeasty rash means his gut flora are out of balance. You can also sprinkle probiotics on the rash.

Plain yogurt also makes a great yeast diaper cream: Stonyfield Farms has the most live cultures. If he's eating solids, give him yogurt to eat, too.

Apple cider vinegar added to bathwater is great, as is tea tree oil (the TTO is strong, though: I prefer to dilute it in oil and apply directly to the rash)

I know people have luck with GSE for yeast, but I haven't tried it myself.

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She wasn't certain that it is yeast, because it isn't particularly "wet" (more dry like excema patches) but it is spreading to his belly in a pattern that looks yeast-like. And she noted that his skin (on his face by his cheeks, his legs etc.) is a little on the dry side so maybe that was why his possibly yeasty rash was more dry than expected.

It is such a stubborn rash.

Lately, though, it doesn't seem to be affected or exacerbated by poop. I mean, if I don't catch a poop right away, he gets irritated. But the last few times, his poops have mostly been at the back (didn't even get to the skin at the front) and the rash remains worse at the front of his pelvis....covering the front of his crotch/groin, and spreading up to his stomach and starting to speckle his chest.

The underside of his scrotum has some very red patches, and his perineum is red (those places are more in contact with poo when he poops) but his butt cheeks are mostly clear at this point.

I just took antibiotics for stubborn plugged ducts that had progressed to mastitis and just weren't getting better (I have exclusively nursed twins for 7 months, and then introduced solids gradually....they are almost 9 months now) and finished the course today. But he had this rash before that (abx) was a factor. I am giving him powdered probiotics in water, but didn't start until I was nearly through with the antibiotic (I should have thought of it earlier and I had them on hand, but it just was an oversight....seriously, it is very hard for me to get from point A to point B a lot of the time.)

He also has dry patches of skin at the tops of his thighs that sometimes get very red and radiate a rash downward onto his legs. This particular rash started up after he wore a cotton diaper (Under The Nile organic fitted) overnight in long wool pants. He had the dry patchy rash on his thighs, and a bright red speckled rash all over inside the diaper and spreading up at the waistband area.

He's been in disposables since then but it hasn't really cleared up.

He definitely has been the more sensitive baby where skin/rash issues are concerned, and also where poop is concerned (more likely to have green poops or mucousy poops with any changes in feeding even when exclusively bfing....such as if I cut a feed short, when we were nursing in a waiting room or restaurant or something like that, any kind of possible foremilk/hindmilk imbalance.) His brother would have the thick whipped yellow poops and his poops would be thinner, very vinegary smelling, sometimes green. He did have more consistently thicker poops eventually, but any little variation or deviation and I'd see it in his diaper.

I assigned them to a breast, switching sides each day, because of this baby. At four months when the same pooping issues started up again in a more regular way, I assigned them a breast and stopped switching sides at all. He has gotten rashes or had problems, including with creams themselves.

I've tried using barrier creams (various ones with zinc oxide but no petroleum products) but he's always seemed to react to them, at least after awhile. At a certain point with this rash, since the skin was so broken, I stopped trying barriers and covered his skin with a Vaseline-like coating of "Un-Petroleum Jelly" which sort of worked.....it cleared up the thigh stuff and his skin seemed moisturized there. The stuff on his groin seemed calmer, but still there. Then the angry-red thigh rash reappeared, the diaper rash worsened again, and the more dramatic belly-spread happened.

I thought the rashes on his cheeks/chin were food related, as I gave avocado and he got pink spots very soon after (I wasn't sure if it was the cloth wipe I cleaned him up with or the food, but the next time I gave avocado it was the same.) So I cut back on solids with him (he hadn't had much yet, anyway. I have gone very slowly with this twin because his system seems so sensitive and I didn't want to see lots of mucous in his poops.) So he would play with toys at the table and his brother would eat. But then I started seeing the "sudden" rash on his cheeks even when he wasn't eating ANYthing (just nursing.) I began to think it was more of a drool rash (he is getting his second tooth....I saw the literal cut in his gum today and that's what happened right before his first tooth popped through last month.)

He seems prone to excema, maybe sensitive to stuff through my milk (I have never really tried any elimination or anything), and so I am reluctant to treat for yeast with a prescription cream, but I don't want to prolong his problem rash either.

He is really pulling and scratching at himself with every diaper change, and seems bothered.

I'm sorry for the long post....just trying to brainstorm and provide information that might prompt something helpful.

Checked both babies for thrush at the appointment and both looked good.
 

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I'm thinking that you may be dealing with a food allergy instead of yeast. Did the rash appear when you started solids?
 

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He had it before. It's hard for me to know if it's the same rash....he just has had rashes that have come and gone, with some sticking around. He has had the excema-like patches and various "skin issues" since before starting solids.

I don't think I was feeding him actual solid foods at the time that this particular rash started up, (I had stopped giving him food), but it WAS after he'd had some bites of food early on. (He was pretty conservative and didn't actually put stuff into his mouth for the longest time. And I was happy to continue to delay with him, though his brother was eating.) The avocado thing he actually did eat a bit, and then I cooled it (again) for awhile because I thought the spots on his cheeks were related to it. I can't remember if that was before or after this rash.

I'm not sure what is related to what. Seriously, my head is a blur most of the time.

I have not tried adjusting anything in my diet. I seriously have to eat quite a lot to keep up with the milk-making for two, and they nurse a lot. They have grown great, probably are both 20+ pounds now (and they are on the "slim" side in general, just nice & chubby but not tons of chins or rolls or anything, so it is amazing to me that they are as heavy as they are), but I can't imagine trying to limit or eliminate whole groups of foods from my diet. I definitely have lost tons of weight nursing them, and I'm always (always) hungry.

The other twin is seriously anemic and finding that out (almost two months ago) after a blood draw for an unrelated purpose is what prompted me to start solids. Not to specifically boost iron (his hg number was low enough that an "iron rich diet" wasn't going to correct it) but because I was a little freaked about giving him a product like Floravital when he hadn't had any solids (so many ingredients/juices in it!) But I didn't want to give him the prescription iron drops, either.

That twin (anemic) is the one who has taken very well to eating, and whose bottom stays lily white too. (Not just because of anemia, ha!
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ETA: the anemia thing is not related to diet, or to my diet, or anything "normal" about breastfed babies being on the lowish end after a certain point. One twin (my rashy one) had a high hg number and the other's was very low, a point above transfusion range, I think. The speculation is that since they shared a placenta, even though there were no noted problems with Twin To Twin Transfusion Syndrome (they were monitored closely), that there was an acute transfusion situation near the end of my pregnancy/during labor that went undetected but that the "donor twin" never could regroup and rebuild his iron stores. He's coped very well with his deficit, and it was not a clinical case of anemia (doctor was shocked and disbelieved the results.) His hg climbed a whole point in one month (very good progress, I gather) after I began supplementing with Floravital and, later, a different herbal product. So that's been good.
 

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Holy monkey momma! I don't know what to say at this point other than treat it naturally for yeast with the ideas above and if it doesn't work I would be willing to bet it is some type of food allergy. Good luck and I hope someone else hops in here soon and offerers ya some good advice.


FWIW, I have a nephew that had an eczema looking (not eczema though) rash and it was caused from an egg allergy. Anything that contained egg would break him out no matter how minuscule the amount.
 

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Sound rough, mama. Good for you for breastfeeding both of those big guys!
From all the stuff I've been reading, it sounds like a food allergy or reaction to something dietary that isn't maybe a true allergy.
The vinegar-y smelling green poop, the dry rash...
Maybe you should cross-post to the allergy boards?
Good luck.
 
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