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i swear - ever since i got my front loader i HATE washing my cloth! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> they just don't seem like they are working. i can't tell if they are not clean enough or if they need to be stripped. here are the facts:<br><br>
the diaper pail smell is soo overwhelming come wash day. i think thats normal though because i go 3-4 days between loads. however, ds's dipe smells ammonia-y at times when i take it off.<br><br>
he seems to get more rashes - not all the time and nothing major but usually the tip of his penis is red. not sure if its a bad circ (don't even get me started on that) or normal. i asked the doc and she said it is fine but my oldest ds didn't look like that!<br><br>
the past 3 nites ds has woken up writhing around (lifting his butt and just plain old looking uncomfortable) he would nurse for a sec then doze off - then wake up the sec i moved. i finally changed him into a sposie - he fell asleep and didn't wake up. he wasn't red at all, he wasn't wet, the dipe smelled alittle but nothing overwhelming. coincidence? i don't know. all 3 nites he wore a pocket dipe (a fb, hh and a harleyz) stuffed with a hemp pad and a moe or microterry cloth. i've used this system for months and no problems before.<br><br>
here is my latest wash routine:<br>
full cycle with autosoak on cold with 1/2 cup of baking soda<br>
full cycle with autosoak and second rinse with HOT water and tiny amount of detergent.<br>
short cycle of warm water<br><br>
i generally use biokleen detergent. i can't used tide because ds reacts to it.<br><br>
the hemp dipes aren't very soft - and they don't smell clean - they just don't smell - at all. make sense?<br><br>
should i was my hemp separately - maybe strip them with some bleach?<br><br>
the other dipes in my stash are generally cotton inners.<br><br>
thanks! i am getting so discouraged! i even put ds in a sposie this morning until i can figure this out!!
 

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We have a front loader too and had a heck of a time figuring out the wash routine (we use a lot of pockets also) This is what we finally fgured out that works fabulously<br><br>
Cold wash/rinse w/extra rinse w/ about a tablespoon of All (reg not free and clear)<br>
Hot Wash/Cold Rinse w/extra rinse w/nothing<br><br>
Occassionally we add TTO and GSE to the rinse cycle of the first wash<br><br>
Since switching to this routine we have had no stinky hemp, no build up and much less diaper rash (although Haley has super sensitive skin and is prone to rashes no matter what)<br><br>
HTH!!!<br><br>
ETA - Since you are having issues right now you should probably go ahead and strip them...turn you water heater all the way up (do this after the kiddos are in bed) and keep washing w/nothing until you see no or very little bubbles. (It took me about 4 times) Good luck!
 

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2 quick questions -<br>
what is gse?<br>
when i strip them - should i use nothing or sensiclean?<br><br>
thanks for the info!
 

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Some things to try..<br><br>
Before you wash, do TWO full rinse only cycles. FL use VERY little water to wash in, so if you dont' rinse them fully first, you are just washing in pee pee and poo poo water.<br><br>
Then, in the first wash cycle, try adding water to the cycle. I have a neptune (which I HATE.. but that's another story.. I want my top loader back!) and can just add water right where I add the soap. A couple gallons .. just to give the diapers more to slosh around in<br><br>
Lastly, I KNOW it's a no-no.. but I've resorted to it and I know a few other front loader mamas on this board have also.. bleach. I know.. ick.. but, in the FIRST wash cycle (since you are running two) put about 1/2 cup bleach in the bleach dispenser.. it'll release it during the rinse cycle when it should and only has the bleach on the diapers for a few minutes before it rinses them. Then, run your second wash and rinse cycle without bleach to make sure it's all rinsed off the diapers. Nothing else has been able to do for us what the bleach does. I hate using it, but after months of trying everyhting else, it's the only thing that works <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> .. but it does work<br><br>
So it should look like this<br><br>
rinse, rinse, wash with detergent, bleach,and extra water/rinse, wash/rinse with tiny tiny bit of detergent.. extra rinse if you like.<br><br>
I think front loaders are WAY over raved about and I even went so far as to try and sell mine for a HUGE loss in the newspaper and coudln't get a buyer so I'm stuck with mine..but would love to have a cheap top laoder over this junk any day.<br><br>
Amber
 

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i hear ya! i want my top loader back too. my regular clothes don't come out any cleaner - in fact - i end up washing some clothes over and over! and the whites - forget it. i used to get them sparkling - now - everything is dingy. i can't use hot on all my whites or they'll shrink!<br><br>
oh well - that's another thread!!!
 

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I spray my poopy diapers before they hit the pail. And I dry pail.<br><br>
I use 1 T. of Tide HE. I bought 2 Y-connectors in the garden department at Lowes. I hooked them up to my washer hook-up. So hoses go to the washer and I have two additional hoses that I keep in a pitcher. There are on-off valves on the connectors, so I can turn water on and off.<br><br>
So I start my washer and stick my cold water hose in the detergent drawer. I put enough water in so that they can slosh around better. And I run a soak cycle with about a quarter cup of baking soda. Then I drain the water, add fresh hot water and then my detergent so that it will be even distributed and not just on one or two diapers. I run a complete cycle, adding water if I catch it. I do the same for the rinses, except cold water. On my second rinse, if I see suds, I drain it and refill the washer. And the Downy Advanced has really cut down on the rinsing but I pull my fleece diapers first. (repelling issues on fleece)<br><br>
It isn't really a diaper washing thing, more of a how to get around your front loader low water issue. I had no idea how much detergent was left in my diapers until I started to add extra water.<br><br>
When I had skunky diapers, I dumped pots of boiling water in my diaper pail and let them set. I didn't boil them because of the snaps. Then I washed as usual. I never had a problem once I solved the water issue.<br><br>
The red rash is detergent burn. You need to get the detergent out of your diapers.<br><br>
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My front loader seemed to not be working so well for awhile until I ran a "freshen-up" wash. Basically I did a long, hot empty wash and extra rinse with about a half-cup (maybe more!) of bleach and a little detergent. The bleach smell about knocked me over, but I think it helped. Good luck!
 

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Excuse this ignorant question but since I have never used a front loader I don't know. How would you add things durring the cycles and stuff if there was water in the machine, you couldn't right? Like sometimes I go and add baking soda to my diapers but I usually wait till it has filled and agitated a few times because I want it to disolve good...
 

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Sorry it took so long to get back to you...GSE is Grapefruit Seed Extract...it helps kill germs. I would strip with nothing, when I did it with sportwash (about 1/4 - 1/3 of a capful) it took 10 washes with nothing before there were no bubbles!!! When I do it with nothing it usually only takes 4.
 

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If you haven't already, I would highly recommend hanging them out to dry in the sun. My dd started getting a rash from her dipes. My aunt mentioned that her daughter (now 48) got a bad case of diaper rash and her dr. told her to hang them out in the sun. So I hung out her diapers and sure enough - no more diaper rash! As a bonus, it also got rid of the smell that was starting to build up and almost all of the stains were gone too! I don't have to hang them out every wash, only once every few weeks or so.<br><br>
HTH!
 

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This is what we do with our front loader(Whirlpool Duet). It took experimenting, but it works for us....<br><br>
--cold rinse and spin with an extra rinse and spin, baking soda in the detgerent slot<br>
--Hot water wash with all or gain HE, and vinegar in the rinse ( I have used regular in mine and it gets WAYYYY too sudsy even with a small amount)<br>
--Hot water wash with nothing
 
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