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Link to Washington Post article about lasers used for cosmetic surgery on the vagina

We live in the most screwed up culture.....we slice and dice baby boys at birth, and now women want to use lasers on their vaginas because they're concerned about appearance? And HYMEN RECONSTRUCTION? No thanks!

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Originally Posted by 13Sandals View Post
hymen reconstruction.

i. am. speechless.
In some cultures women without hymens are considered to be "unoure" and could be disowned by their families. I do not support this practice but this is a real fear for some women.
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Actually this is the kind of surgical repair I've been looking at, not hymen recontruction, but rather I need my perineum tissues reconstructed. I think it is called a deficient perineum. Without going into too much detail -- my birth trauma resulted in 2nd degree tears, nearing the 3rd degree mark. My mw stitched me up, but only the internal layers, the external layers did not come together as I think they should have. As things started to heal and I noticed this problem, it was too late to go back and restitch. I went to a gyn and he stated since function of my bladder and rectum were not involved, I'd be looking at plastic surgery which insurance will not likely cover.
The only place I found researching what I need done was out in CA, which the article mentions. A general gyn/ ob should not do it according to women here on MDC over in the Birth & Beyond. I don't need a colon rectal specialist. I don't need a urology specialist either. I just need someone who can restore me back to my normal.
I might just go see this guy. I don't want vaginal rejuvination, I've got Kegals for that. But I do want and need my perineum restored...
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I would do a LOT of research if I were you.....the laser thing has not been studied and published in peer-reviewed journals.
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I would do a LOT of research if I were you.....the laser thing has not been studied and published in peer-reviewed journals.
What I need done I do not believe is done with a laser, but it takes that kind of surgeon to know what to do to make it right. It's called in some places on the internet Perineoplasty, at least I think that is what it is called.

I've got this article printed and found the doctor's website. I will probably call after I go back to the GYN in 2 weeks. I don't want any old GYN to do what I want and need done. The GYN did not tell me a whole lot when I went at 2 wk PP with some serious healing issues. He said we could discuss it in more detail after I had more time to heal and asked me to come back at 8wks PP.

Unless I truly need to do this now, I don't plan on doing anything until my dh and I are sure our family is complete. We both talk about at least 1 more. That definitely give the technology time to be evaluated or banned by the FDA.

I've got my whole mess I've been dealing with over in Birth& Beyond, if anyone cares to read it. But this article was a bright spot for me...
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reconstruction is one thing. More power to you, I hope it happens for you!
But for aesthetic reasons? I read an article recently about women getting their labia "trimmed" because they didn't like the appearance.
No wonder so many people have no problem with RIC being cosmetic!!
I am also considering perineoplasty to repair damage from childbirth. But I am a grown woman capable of determining for myself whether the surgery is right for me.

This is completely different from subjecting unconsenting minor children to cosmetic surgery to suit the parents.

Apples and oranges, really.
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Originally Posted by ~Megan~ View Post
In some cultures women without hymens are considered to be "unoure" and could be disowned by their families. I do not support this practice but this is a real fear for some women.

I was going to say the same thing.
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reconstruction is one thing. More power to you, I hope it happens for you!
But for aesthetic reasons? I read an article recently about women getting their labia "trimmed" because they didn't like the appearance.
No wonder so many people have no problem with RIC being cosmetic!!
I have actually looked into getting my labia "trimmed" not only because they are big and I don't like the way they look, but also because they get in the way...I feel like a man who is always re-adjusting their balls, but I feel like my labia always need to be adjusted.
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But I think RIC should be outlawed. There is a huge difference in my opinion.
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As a side note, I know women who had perineoplasty after her fourth baby was done. She did it and sadly regretted it. In her case there was a lot of pain and no sexual difference for her whatsoever. Her doctor pretty much neglected to tell her that it the tightness of her vagina and her sexual feeling were completely a result of her vaginal muscles and not the exterior skin/hymen which was enlarged after childbirth. So, what she got after surgery was a VERY sore perineum (much like what she had after a bad episiotomy she had with her first) and sex was actually very painful for for over a year. He removed some skin tags, cut in to some of her tissues and resutured them. In his words "cleaned up" the way it looked on the outside. She had so much pain though afterwards...she expected all these positive results which didn't materialize. She had to go through and get injections and work on stretching exercises to help reduce the pain in the area.
: According to her the doctor had completely misrepresented the surgery and what the outcomes would be for her.
: There was no sexual improvement from the surgery...I didn't know that she had it until *after* she had it and was having problems. I then told her about the vaginal exerciser that I use, she got it and began using it and only then did she get the sexual feeling back that she had lost.

For me it started about 4 years ago when I was preggo with my second. I had talked to my midwife about this...and she shared with me the story of one of her moms who had 5 children in 7 years. Postpartum the mom had broken down and confessed to my midwife that she had a dramatic loss of sensation during intercourse with subsequent pregnancies. Well, the midwife suggested a vaginal muscle exercising device, and the mom bought it and used it....she said she noticed a huge difference within a couple of weeks...and within 4 months the mom said she felt *awesome* and felt like during sex she was just as responsive, if not more, than when she first got married and they were newlyweds.

I personally can attest to the success of purchasing a vaginal exerciser too. Honestly, I *thought* I was doing Kegels before. I could tighten the muscle. But, I bought a gyneflex (the same device my mw recommended), and what it does is really help you isolate and contract the muscles so much better, and more efficiently than without it. Instead of just a tightening, I have the ability to tighten and roll up the muscle completely. And, the device adds resistance, so the muscles is even stronger! A sensation that is VERY obvious to DH and extremely useful to both of us
. It prevents a lot of medical issues as well...prolapse, incontinence, etc. I still do my kegels, in between using the device, and I do them better and stronger than before.

I am just pointing this out as a possible option to try before surgery.

It's one of those sad things in a way, in our culture we're just not "active" how we are meant to be, and because of it our pc muscles just slump over time. Even if women don't have kids if the pc muscles aren't exercised properly as they get older they weaken and issues like incontinence affect older women. Carrying a child around for 9 months stretches them out, and if you've had a few births without strengthening them it can get cumulatively worse.

I honestly don't care what the outside of my genitals look like. I think I care about their functionality. As long as they work well (and they do, really well LOL) then I am happy. Our culture is caring way to much about appearance, and less about functionality. And, in the case of the foreskin they'd like to just deny any important functions
: . It's function and what's "inside that counts"
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Oh, and as a wierd extra note, I remember before kids and before the hymen was loosened. The outside skin was very tight that I was more irritated since DH is circumcised. When they are circumcised they don't have the foreskin bunch up behind the coronal ridge during an erection as most of the skin was cut off.....and during thrusting the coronal ridge hooks upon and irritates that area on the woman. It was quite a negative sensation during intercourse...after having kids and having the hymen more open I didn't notice that negative sensation anymore as it couldn't irritate the area the same way.
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