[chewymama]

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Column...3/1084297.html
Here is one quote,
Fortunately, most moms seem to show discretion when breastfeeding. But there are a few more militant mothers who seem determined to make the point that they are free to breastfeed anywhere and everywhere. One woman, while doing her grocery shopping, decided to sit down smack dab in the middle of an aisle to nurse her child. This, despite the fact that the store's bathroom was not far away. Another tried to breastfeed in a public pool in plain view of fellow swimmers.

This has nothing to do with fulfilling a baby's needs. Newborns won't suffer unduly if they are forced to wait a minute or two, nor will it kill them to have a thin towel or blanket draped over the mother's shoulder.

And it goes on with other awful stuff, I feel a letter coming on!

 

[DaryLLL]

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Originally Posted by chewymama Fortunately, most moms seem to show discretion when breastfeeding. But there are a few more militant mothers who seem determined to make the point that they are free to breastfeed anywhere and everywhere. One woman, while doing her grocery shopping, decided to sit down smack dab in the middle of an aisle to nurse her child. This, despite the fact that the store's bathroom was not far away. Another tried to breastfeed in a public pool in plain view of fellow swimmers. This has nothing to do with fulfilling a baby's needs. Newborns won't suffer unduly if they are forced to wait a minute or two, nor will it kill them to have a thin towel or blanket draped over the mother's shoulder.

Well, if most moms are discreet, WTH has she got to complain about?

And she doesn't say where she saw these moms bfing in the goc store (right in the middle of the aisle? huh?) And at the pool! Horrors! Where there is miles of exposed skin and upper boobage and hineys!

But, be kind when you write your letter. She is young and ignorant and just needs her consciousness raised. You might point out that, since she has never bfed, she may not know just how hot and sweaty an infant can indeed get under a towel at the pool, no matter how "thin" the towel. Personally, I used to wear a loose t-shirt over my suit when bfing at pool or beach. Baby's head would be uncovered, but my skin was covered.

BTW, I saw pix of the moms at the nurse-in and they were extremely discreet as well. Yes, they were publically nursing, but they were not flashing the whole street with a "view" of their entire endowments.

 

[MA mommy]

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While breastfeeding should absolutely be encouraged (it's a shame that so many women give up too easily or switch to formula too soon) nursing mothers should also be encouraged to practise a bit of modesty.

With breastfeeding rates so low, modesty should be the least of our worries.

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One woman, while doing her grocery shopping, decided to sit down smack dab in the middle of an aisle to nurse her child. This, despite the fact that the store's bathroom was not far away. Another tried to breastfeed in a public pool in plain view of fellow swimmers. This has nothing to do with fulfilling a baby's needs. Newborns won't suffer unduly if they are forced to wait a minute or two, nor will it kill them to have a thin towel or blanket draped over the mother's shoulder.

 

[ExuberantDaffodil]

An overall well written article (I did catch a misspelling), but my one complaint is, why do people keep insisting that nursing mothers cover their babies' heads with blankets? The people who recommend this method obviously have never tried to blanket a wiggly child who has no desire to be covered up and is rather indignant to be so. Although she made some good points about breasts being sexual, modesty, et cetera, my argument is that the majority of breastfeeding mothers have absolutely no desire to show off what they are doing and no desire to show off their boobs while doing what comes naturally to them. My experience is that people become uncomfortable when mothers nurse in public *regardless* of whether the mother is discreet or not. I am under the strong conviction that a nursing mother CAN "discreetly" feed her baby without the use of a blanket - or even without the use of over-priced, complicated nursing apparal. A cute button-down blouse and a camisol do wonders. Heck, a t-shirt and a nursing tank just about cover everything. Can someone remind me again why this is such a huge deal to the public??

 

[paquerette]

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This, despite the fact that the store's bathroom was not far away.

I could see myself ending up sitting on a floor in an aisle, though. Sometimes there are no benches anywhere in a store, and standing up just doesn't cut it because I need to sort of balance her on my lap if she's squirming and fussing and not happy about being in the sling. I've sat on teh floor at Borders and NIPed when there weren't any chairs free.

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This has nothing to do with fulfilling a baby's needs. Newborns won't suffer unduly if they are forced to wait a minute or two.

The minute or two it takes to get to the bathroom, maybe? Again,

Most situations I've NIPed, my baby would have had to wait a minimum of 15 minutes, and that's with me dropping everything I'm doing; such as leaving a cart full of shopping in the middle of a store, or throwing money on the table at a restaurant and walking out without finishing my food, and going home (is my car still okay, or is that too public? I don't have tinted windows, after all). And, this woman has never met my baby. Yes, a minute or two is suffering for her. Heck, the time that it takes for me to pull up my shirt is too much sometimes. She has a bad habit of refusing, refusing, refusing even though I KNOW she's hungry, and then all of a sudden it's GIVE IT TO ME NOW! I understand this is not unusual with overtired, distracted, cranky babies.

 

[mama24-7]

I am printing the article to read.

But why is it okay for people to comment on us using our breast for what nature intended yet girls can walk around w/ their cleavage busting out of their shirts and/or bras

(which sometimes you can't tell if it is even clothes or is just a bra) and their thong hanging out the back of their pants and their rumps hanging out of their shorts?

: Why is that acceptable but if someone happens to catch a glimpse of a breast being used, it's indecent & needs to be covered w/ a "thin blanket."

THis society is so hyper sexed that all that's acceptable but heaven forbid a baby get it's needs met in the middle of a super market aisle. Are all these people jealous because their needs weren't met at the breast.

ONly conclusion I can come to.

Done my rant, for now.
Sus

 

[Metasequoia]

I took my dd's to WalMart (gulp) because our community pool was closed on Sat. when it was supposed to be open & the only remedy for our sad situation was a kiddy pool.
My youngest dd - 29 mos was extremely tired & having a tantrum, about what, I dunno, I doubt she even knew. As we walked out of the toy section, past the neighboring "hunting" section, I overheard a customer say to a clerk, "now you have a good day" & the clerk replied, "I will now." Obviously he was making reference to my dd's crying, but I couldn't help but wonder what comments he would have made had I sat down & nursed her in the aisle (which surely would have put an end to the crying.)

 

[soccerchic21]

No matter what we are damned if we do damned if we don't....

If we breastfeed our babies to calm them then we are being militant breastfeeders who don't care about the feelings of uncomfortable people around us....

But if we let our children cry until we can get home or to our car..or wherever else to breastfeed them and calm them then we are the one with the annoying screaming kid in the store.

Some people just won't be satisifed.

Also I would recommend that anyone who wants a nursing mother to cover her baby with a towel to do the following exercise first before recommending it again.

On the hottest day of the summer (any hot day might do actually) go out with a friend and take a blanket with you (what you would expect a nursing mother to cover with) and every 2 hours sit down with your friend and nuzzle your head into their chest and put the cover up over your head for at least 30 minutes. I would think that they would get rather sweaty and hot and then see why most mothers do not like to cover up.

 

[Lyci]

I just wrote a letter to the editor and this is an exerpt.

I have two questions for Ms. Lovric: 1)have you ever eaten sitting on a the toilet in a public bathroom (and did you enjoy it?) 2)have you ever eaten with a thin towel over your head (and did you enjoy it?)

I don't feel I should cut her any slack because she is young. She is writing for a major paper and people are reading it. Why do her opinions matter again?

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[Shenjall]

Ah, the winnipeg sun. A cheaper version of the world weekly news......

full of crap just like this article for instance....

 

[the_lissa]

omg! I had a huge email exchange with this woman. She told me I should only be nursing my then 11 month old at bed and naps and never in public, that I needed to wean soon, etc. She compared nip to shitting, pissing, fornicating, her husband leaning over and taking a sip, etc. This woman has written the most vile things to me that made me cry, and I am a strong person. I now know how some women can stop bf'ing over stuff like this. She really is a horrid woman. No amount of letters will change her mind.

[Admin note/disclaimer: The language used is not a quote from Lovric.]

 

[MamaPear]

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Originally Posted by ExuberantDaffodil An overall well written article (I did catch a misspelling), but my one complaint is, why do people keep insisting that nursing mothers cover their babies' heads with blankets? The people who recommend this method obviously have never tried to blanket a wiggly child who has no desire to be covered up and is rather indignant to be so. Although she made some good points about breasts being sexual, modesty, et cetera, my argument is that the majority of breastfeeding mothers have absolutely no desire to show off what they are doing and no desire to show off their boobs while doing what comes naturally to them. My experience is that people become uncomfortable when mothers nurse in public *regardless* of whether the mother is discreet or not. I am under the strong conviction that a nursing mother CAN "discreetly" feed her baby without the use of a blanket - or even without the use of over-priced, complicated nursing apparal. A cute button-down blouse and a camisol do wonders. Heck, a t-shirt and a nursing tank just about cover everything. Can someone remind me again why this is such a huge deal to the public??

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What I wonder is why should the comfort of people who I could care less about come before the comfort of the person that I love most in the world?? Seriously, I'm sick and tired of hearing these self-righteous b**ches talk about modesty. How about if we all make a deal, I won't look at their butt cracks hanging out of the back of their way too low cut jeans if they won't look at my nipple when my daughter happens to pop off the breast! Uggg.

 

[soccerchic21]

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Originally Posted by the_lissa omg! I had a huge email exchange with this woman. She told me I should only be nursing my then 11 month old at bed and naps and never in public, that I needed to wean soon, etc. She compared nip to shitting, pissing, fornicating, her husband leaning over and taking a sip, etc. This woman has written the most vile things to me that made me cry, and I am a strong person. I now know how some women can stop bf'ing over stuff like this. She really is a horrid woman. No amount of letters will change her mind.

I hope you kept her emails. They should be sent to the editor of the paper and she should be fired! Is this in Canada? Isn't Canada super bf friendly?

 

[HelloKitty]

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Originally Posted by soccerchic21 I hope you kept her emails. They should be sent to the editor of the paper and she should be fired!

Abso-freakin-lutely!!!!

 

[MA mommy]

I just hope that as breastfeeding rates rise people get more "comfortable". The only damn reason they are not is the fact that bottle feeding is the norm. I guess these people forgot were are mammals.

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[the_lissa]

Yep I have her emails. This was in february. I don't know if sending them to an editor would do much as she is freelance. Yes, Canada is bf friendly. NIP is protected by the Ontario Human Rights Code. Our exchange was prompted by her appearance on a local tv show about Erika Ross. She got her butt handed to her on the show and after though

She also has her own radio show in which she gets to spew her b.s.

lydialovric.com

 

[User101]

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Originally Posted by DaryLLL BTW, I saw pix of the moms at the nurse-in and they were extremely discreet as well. Yes, they were publically nursing, but they were not flashing the whole street with a "view" of their entire endowments.

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I'm sure the policemen who fought to guard us unruly breastfeeding mamas was disappointed by the lack of boobage displayed.

 

[the_lissa]

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Originally Posted by DaryLLL But, be kind when you write your letter. She is young and ignorant and just needs her consciousness raised. You might point out that, since she has never bfed, she may not know just how hot and sweaty an infant can indeed get under a towel at the pool, no matter how "thin" the towel. Personally, I used to wear a loose t-shirt over my suit when bfing at pool or beach. Baby's head would be uncovered, but my skin was covered.

I was kind when I wrote her this very thing a few months back. It clearly didn't raise her consciousness any.

I wonder if I am the grocery store floor mama because I have never seen anyone else do it.

 

[Fiercemama]

Maybe it was me. I seem to recall nursing my DD in a supermarket once after the 2 litre carton of soya milk fell off the top of the stroller canopy and onto her head. Sometimes you just gotta stop wherever you are and attend to things.

I really loved the press kit for the nurse-out. It had really clear and basic explanations about why nip is often the best option, not snotty just explaining what mamas are dealing with.

 

[~Nikki~]

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Another tried to breastfeed in a public pool in plain view of fellow swimmers

She didn't finish her sentence. It should read "...in plain view of fellow swimmers, who were probably showing more skin than she was." :LOL

I'll never understand why people make such a big deal about NIP'ing. I also saw pictures of the nurse-in, and had to do a "Where's Waldo" to even find a breastfeeding mama. They were very discreet.

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This has nothing to do with fulfilling a baby's needs. Newborns won't suffer unduly if they are forced to wait a minute or two, nor will it kill them to have a thin towel or blanket draped over the mother's shoulder.

Blankets and bibs only draw attention to the fact that you're nursing. And often just piss the baby off, causing them to rip the blanket off, cry, and make even more of a scene.

(Not to mention that you won't catch me with a blanket over my infant's head in this heat wave...) Waiting a minute or two often means a minute or two of scowls from fellow shoppers, as you run frantically around looking for a "safe" spot to nurse while your baby screams. It has EVERYTHING to do with fulfilling a baby's needs. That's what breastfeeding is all about! This woman sounds like a real piece of work.