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that notices the difference between here and DDC. there is a lot more discussion of hospital births and drugs in DDC. i'm not saying that's BAD....just thought it was odd and what a diiference there seems to be.
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Well, I knew my health circumstances kind of dictated a hospital birth with this one, much as I would have liked it to be otherwise. (I was pretty much risked out of a midwife-attended birth with any of the midwives in my area.) I know already MDC is not the best place to post questions or expect discussions of hospital births, so I didn't really post in this forum much, although I read here a lot.

A recent poll in my DDC showed that more than half were planning out of hospital births (counting birth centers, UCs and homebirths). Not a high percentage for MDC, perhaps, but certainly a lot higher than you'd find among the general population, at least where I live.
 
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Yes, I think lots of moms find their way into a DDC but aren't necesarily all that into other aspects of NFL, or are just not that into the natural birthing aspect of NFL.
I am not able to spend as much time in my DDC because of this - it's just not the supportive environment I want.....at times, it feels like babycenter, LOL!
 
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Yes, I think lots of moms find their way into a DDC but aren't necesarily all that into other aspects of NFL, or are just not that into the natural birthing aspect of NFL.
I am not able to spend as much time in my DDC because of this - it's just not the supportive environment I want.....at times, it feels like babycenter, LOL!

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:this is how i feel. it's just not the type of thing i am looking for, but i know it IS for many others. i guess i will stick to this board
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Yes, I think lots of moms find their way into a DDC but aren't necesarily all that into other aspects of NFL, or are just not that into the natural birthing aspect of NFL.
I am not able to spend as much time in my DDC because of this - it's just not the supportive environment I want.....at times, it feels like babycenter, LOL!
I struggle with the same thing...but I've actually found that to be true for many of the Pregnancy and Birth (and even in the TTC forum) sub-forums.
 
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I was shocked to see all the mommas in my DDC happily discussing their ultrasounds. Almost nobody questions them. There are like 10 threads going about them right now. One momma asked about risks so I posted a few thoughts and a little research and was slammed by the "there's no proven risk" moms.
I don't post much there because it seems really mainstream. I guess MDC has made me way crunchier than I realized, not that that's a bad thing...
 
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Some women have to have a hospital birth for whatever reason. I think the majority of women are going to midwives, doing homebirths, etc.

Not everyone has the money to shell out for that awesome homebirth midwife. I don't. I am seeing midwives, but I am unsure what to do about my birth. If I want insurance to pay for it, I have to give birth in a hospital. I'd love to UC, but I don't have the support system for that. I might give birth at a birth center in NH, but again that is going to cost me quite a bit of money. The midwife who I'd be seeing there said that I had to have a u/s or she couldn't see me because of my vbac. We had to make sure that the placenta wasn't on my scar.

I really wish I had some people to be around me so I could do a UC. If I end up at a hospital it will be VERY reluctantly.
 
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Some women have to have a hospital birth for whatever reason. I think the majority of women are going to midwives, doing homebirths, etc.

Not everyone has the money to shell out for that awesome homebirth midwife. I don't. I am seeing midwives, but I am unsure what to do about my birth. If I want insurance to pay for it, I have to give birth in a hospital. I'd love to UC, but I don't have the support system for that. I might give birth at a birth center in NH, but again that is going to cost me quite a bit of money. The midwife who I'd be seeing there said that I had to have a u/s or she couldn't see me because of my vbac. We had to make sure that the placenta wasn't on my scar.

I really wish I had some people to be around me so I could do a UC. If I end up at a hospital it will be VERY reluctantly.
This. There's often a huge difference in the kind of birth you dream of having and the kind of birth you actually have, for many, many reasons. I know I love the idea of a home birth, but in our situation it's just not going to happen. We're over half an hour from a hospital here, and the house is far from ideal for birthing. Also, despite our insurance being awful, it stills pays for some of our hospital birth. There's no way we could afford a home birth.

Some women discover that they or the baby have a health issue, some have insurance problems, some are far from a hospital, some have a partner who just isn't comfortable with home birth, and sometimes the mother herself likes the idea of home birth better than the reality. As long as each of us thinks long and hard about our decisions and does the best we can with what we have (even if someone else thinks another way would be better), I don't see why anyone should judge us for what we decide.
 
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People in a DDC generally have context for eachother, and a bit more grace for the idiosyncrasies of a particular pregnancy experience. I've had no prenatal care for much of the pregnancy, and plan to homebirth in my tiny urban apartment with minimal intervention--very close to a UC, actually. However, I've had several ultrasounds: to date pregnancy (as LMP gives me a wide 2 month margin), a 20 week anatomy scan (to prepare for any abnormalities that would require a transfer for surgery immediately after birth), and to confirm breech presentation (this influences my choice of a midwife). I consider these appropriate reasons for u/s, and would balk at someone suggesting I'm not doing it "naturally" enough.

I understand that someone else might find the hospital to be a perfect place to birth, and I'm fully supportive of that. Chances are, in a DDC, I know their circumstances and experiences, and I'd be far less likely to apply my generalities (ie; "the hospital is no place to have babies") to them.
 
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And don't assume that because a person is having a hospital birth, that it's their first choice. I'd much rather give birth in a birth center or at home, but the birth center's not covered by my insurance, and home is two plane flights from a hospital that's "in-network" for my insurance. On a teacher's salary, I can't afford my ideal birth. My best friend (who's not on MDC, but is quite possibly the crunchiest person I know IRL) opted for a hospital birth over a home birth because she just doesn't have much housekeeping support from her DP... the hospital was a break from the household responsibilities. People make all kinds of decisions for all kinds of reasons.
 
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I think there's more discussion about it in DDCs because members feel safer there. Guess what? I'm having a hospital birth (by choice!) and I really don't feel like posting it in this forum and getting flamed and a bazillion suggestions to just UC instead. I'm 33, this is my 4th child, and I'm quite educated about labor and birth, thank you very much.
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I also don't feel like educating any one else on this board as to why all 3 of my hospital births so far have NOT been horrible but instead wonderful experiences.

At least in a DDC there's a lot more room for discussion and questions. I see so many mamas here that throw out the UC idea without any kind of background information, etc., and it really makes me scratch my head. Do people *really* think that someone planning a hospital birth is all of the sudden going to birth their baby alone at home just 'cause an internet stranger said so? Most of the time people give this suggestion with NO additional facts - just "Well, you should UC instead."

(I'm not against UCs at all - just against one-line, in no way helpful advice and flaming.
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Gosh, I"m going to have to check out the DDC board!
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While I have found a lot of great advice and interesting viewpoints on this board, at times I've been surprised at the at the one-size-fits-all pregnancy advice and hard line that all tests and interventions are unnecessary and bad. I wish I were 24 and in perfect health, but it's not the case and I assume i'm not the only one. Everyone's birth experience is unique and I don't really care if someone else homebirths, hospital births, or whatever! We all do what we have to do to feel comfortable and have a healthy babe.
 
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I think people like to mention that many things aren't necessary (and I almost always see a disclaimer of, "unless medically indicated") because our birth culture says otherwise. There are many women who think certain things pertaining to pregnancy and birth are a must. They're hearing it from their OB, from their friends, from their family....people like to just offer up a different POV. Even if that OP doesn't take it into consideration, other people may. It's how we all slowly learn.

With DD I had it all done. All of it. The tests, the ultrasounds, the hospital birth, the epidural. I personally (*read* PERSONALLY) am thankful that I've read the posts that pipe in with, "well it actually *isn't* necessary unless there is a medical reason". It gave me pause and caused me to question things I never would have before and now I feel so relaxed about this pregnancy and birth because of it. No being poked by needles, no going in for tests, no going into an OB office period. This will be my first homebirth.

I think that if it doesn't apply to your case (general your) because you have a NEED for a certain test, medicine, etc. then that post doesn't apply to you (again general you) and you shouldn't get offended and feel the need to defend yourself. No one is saying you're wrong. Just that statistically speaking, baring medical issues, many things are unnecessary for a healthy pregnancy and birth and I think it's important to get that word out there.
 
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yeah, op - ita. i'm not really participating in my ddc b/c i just don't want to read "did you see your ob yet?" (at 4 weeks)/"how was your 7 week us? and are you looking forward to your 18 week one"?/"i'm having an epidural"...

more power to ya if that's what you want to do, but i'm just not there and don't want to be there in my head. at all.

but then i'm sure there are plenty who would think I'm the froot loop as i'm not being seen for any care yet, wanting a uc, etc...
 
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If you're talking about the Nov DDC, it may seem a little more mainstream/hospital birth-filled on the surface, but there is some context and background that might not be apparent at first glance. Many of the hospital-going mothers really agonized over what the best choice would be given their particular history and circumstances and for some people the hospital is the best choice.

There are still plenty of homebirth plans in the works, but you don't see too many of them yet because it's not even November. Many of the hospital-going women had reasons for delivering on the early side, creeping into October. I can't recall any UC'ers offhand (at least amongst the regular posters), but I could be wrong. The best part of the DDC IMO is that people are free to discuss things without feeling like they're going to be judged. We may not agree with others' choices, but we allow them to work through the issues to make their own decisions.

I'm sure there are variations in 'crunchiness' there as there are everywhere, but I didn't want anybody to think the Nov. DDC was rushing to the hospital en masse, begging for our epidurals at 2 cm.
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If you're talking about the Nov DDC, it may seem a little more mainstream/hospital birth-filled on the surface, but there is some context and background that might not be apparent at first glance. Many of the hospital-going mothers really agonized over what the best choice would be given their particular history and circumstances and for some people the hospital is the best choice.

There are still plenty of homebirth plans in the works, but you don't see too many of them yet because it's not even November. Many of the hospital-going women had reasons for delivering on the early side, creeping into October. I can't recall any UC'ers offhand (at least amongst the regular posters), but I could be wrong. The best part of the DDC IMO is that people are free to discuss things without feeling like they're going to be judged. We may not agree with others' choices, but we allow them to work through the issues to make their own decisions.

I'm sure there are variations in 'crunchiness' there as there are everywhere, but I didn't want anybody to think the Nov. DDC was rushing to the hospital en masse, begging for our epidurals at 2 cm.
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Thanks for explaining this, Oskie--I wanted to chime in and defend our DDC, too!
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Our DDC rocks! The camraderie (sp?) there is amazing.
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IMO, if you're due in November and not posting there, you're really missing out. The mamas there are supportive of EVERYONE and their choices and are just an awesome group of mamas!