desertpenguin
Hmmm. The article states "Research has demonstrated that the retention of menstrual discharge promotes the backflow of endometrial cells from the uterus into the pelvic cavity, which is believed to increase the risk of endometriosis in some women."
I can't see how the "retention of menstrual discharge promotes the backflow of" cells... are they saying that the problem is the cup is holding it there rather than absorbing it (as in a tampon) or letting it come out (onto a pad)? I've been using a Diva Cup for about 3 months now, and I don't feel like it backs anything up. It certainly isn't holding things up against my cervix. I never take out the cup and find it is overflowing... maybe if I left it in for 4 days straight and never dumped it... interesting article, I think I want to know more though.
I can't see how the "retention of menstrual discharge promotes the backflow of" cells... are they saying that the problem is the cup is holding it there rather than absorbing it (as in a tampon) or letting it come out (onto a pad)? I've been using a Diva Cup for about 3 months now, and I don't feel like it backs anything up. It certainly isn't holding things up against my cervix. I never take out the cup and find it is overflowing... maybe if I left it in for 4 days straight and never dumped it... interesting article, I think I want to know more though.
Thanks for posting this. If you go to the interest group's site (Associated Pharmacologist and Toxicologists) http://www.assocpharmtox.org/pages/CupsIntro.html the direct quote from the FDA is there. I can't copy it but it says the relationship between cups & endometriosis is "physiologically plausible" but there is no research that shows a relationship exists. I thought I remembered reading about endometriosis on the cup websites, though. This issue also doesn't seem fall under the group's Mission, so I wonder if there are ulterior motives here. (I'm ever the cynic, though.)
Mission
APT seeks to provide an organizational setting in which pharmacologists, toxicologists and other biomedical scientists can develop their professional expertise, perform basic and applied research as well as direct their teaching talents to the complex social issues that involve therapeutic and toxic chemicals.
Mission
APT seeks to provide an organizational setting in which pharmacologists, toxicologists and other biomedical scientists can develop their professional expertise, perform basic and applied research as well as direct their teaching talents to the complex social issues that involve therapeutic and toxic chemicals.
How do they fail to warn us about the chemical soup in tampons? Before I ever knew or even considered alternatives, I knew all the risks associated with tampon usage. The only people I can imagine that wouldn't know about the risks would be people who didn't/couldn't read. Not trying to be snarky, just curious.
how many different forums are we going to have this same thread posted in?? can't you just post a link to the other threads instead?
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http://www.mothering.com/discussions...99#post3468699
and
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=313445
and my reply to the first thread on this same topic...
the retrograde menstruation theory is not believed by most doctors who specialize in treating endometriosis, nor by many knowledgable women with the disorder. Endometriosis is caused mainly by exposure to environmental toxins and partly by genetics. The big problem is that most ob/gyns know less about endo than they do about breastfeeding or natural childbirth. You cannot believe anything they say, or anything you read, without doing some homework and research of your own. Read the studies yourself, they are not conclusive. There is absolutely no evidence to support retrograde menstruation theory. None. There is no reason to believe that menstrual blood somehow getting into the abdominal cavity can grow into endometrial tissue like the lining of the uterus. It needs a blood supply. Retrograde menstruation theory does not explain how some women get endo implants in all sorts of other places inside their bodies, like the lungs, the lining of the brain, the sinus tissues.
tampons contribute to endometriosis because of dioxins, not because they make menstrual blood back up and flow out the fallopian tubes.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...99#post3468699
and
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=313445
and my reply to the first thread on this same topic...
the retrograde menstruation theory is not believed by most doctors who specialize in treating endometriosis, nor by many knowledgable women with the disorder. Endometriosis is caused mainly by exposure to environmental toxins and partly by genetics. The big problem is that most ob/gyns know less about endo than they do about breastfeeding or natural childbirth. You cannot believe anything they say, or anything you read, without doing some homework and research of your own. Read the studies yourself, they are not conclusive. There is absolutely no evidence to support retrograde menstruation theory. None. There is no reason to believe that menstrual blood somehow getting into the abdominal cavity can grow into endometrial tissue like the lining of the uterus. It needs a blood supply. Retrograde menstruation theory does not explain how some women get endo implants in all sorts of other places inside their bodies, like the lungs, the lining of the brain, the sinus tissues.
tampons contribute to endometriosis because of dioxins, not because they make menstrual blood back up and flow out the fallopian tubes.
I only started one of the other one's. I was unaware of the other thread that had been started. Sorry to get your panties all in a twist.
Even back in the 80s, when retrograde menustration was a much more supported theory, my OB/GYN didn't really give the theory much credit. (especially since he had seen cases like mine, time and time again, with a strong gentic link, people from farms and a higher than typical chemical exposure, and zero history of tampon usage) I think that theory is largely out of fashion in the up-to-date medical professionals.
Sorry you were having a bad night stafl! I suppose I should give more thought to the articles that I post beforehand. I just thought "Hmm, I wonder if everyone else has heard this." rather than "Hmm, that does sound utterly ridiculous."
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LMFAO You STILL rock Mama Q sister friend!!
I use the diva cup and adore it, my cramps have almost disappeared and my periods are shorter. I like that there is no damming up the flow like tampons. I have never been able to get used to pads.
Originally Posted by Unoppressed MAMA Q "they" fail to "warn us" of the carcinogenic dioxins in tampax, playtex, etc. yeah, they are so concerned about the health of our cunts... 
sorry so cynical. |
LMFAO You STILL rock Mama Q sister friend!!
I use the diva cup and adore it, my cramps have almost disappeared and my periods are shorter. I like that there is no damming up the flow like tampons. I have never been able to get used to pads.
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