Did he have IgE allergies? How long before treatment was he tested? What were his level? After the treatment?

 

When I started treating my son, he was too young to have allergy testing. There is a site extinguishingeczema.blogspot.com that is similar to mine except her son had IgE allergies and she documented them with the NAET.

However, I have had allergies and eczema my whole life. This last allergist I went to said I was practically allergic to nothing, when I was having reactions to EVERYTHING I was eating, touching, breathing. So technically, the IgE allergies didn't matter to my eczema. Once I got rid of the allergies through NAET, my eczema disappeared and has not returned.

 

There aren't any dates or new results.

By that I am mean when was the first IgE test done, when were the "treatments" done, when was a followup IgE done if ever. If that is over a long enough time, I am not sure I would contribute the "cure" the reason for a change in levels.

 

How do I find a good NAET practitioner? How did you find yours? And where are you - can I see your person? I'm desperate to heal my daughter's eczema!

 

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How do I find a good NAET practitioner? How did you find yours? And where are you - can I see your person? I'm desperate to heal my daughter's eczema!

Go to the NAET homepage http://www.naet.com/ and look up practitioners in your area. These are people that have been trained by the original discoverer/creator of NAET, so they are "purists," so to speak. It will tell what level of training they have received. I would prefer someone who has been doing it for a few years over someone who is just starting out.

Call several of the practitioners and ask them questions to get a feel for them before you commit to one person. How long have they been practicing, do they stick with the basics first, do they waver from the traditional methods, how much are the sessions, do they accept insurance (some do and some insurance covers it)... those are a few I would ask.

I am in Austin...

 

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There aren't any dates or new results.

By that I am mean when was the first IgE test done, when were the "treatments" done, when was a followup IgE done if ever. If that is over a long enough time, I am not sure I would contribute the "cure" the reason for a change in levels.

Well, I personally am not concerned with changes of IgE levels, bc I was having allergic reactions and symptoms without even showing an "IgE" allergy to foods and environment at my last allergist. That is why I became so frustrated and irritated with "modern medicine" and decided to look into alternative methods.

I have lived 27 years with eczema and allergies that worsened after my second pregnancy. I have never had such bad allergies in my life. Constant itching, bleeding, red eczema after everything I touched, smelled, ate.

No doctor can honestly say I was not having allergic reactions. It was absurd. After this torture for 2 years, with no medical doctor giving me any hope except for a life full of steroids and medication with all kinds of side effects, I was done. With NAET, in 4 months my eczema was GONE, I am eating foods with no problems when I have not been able to eat them in 2 years without experiencing a break-out, AND my son has also been cured of his food allergies in the same amount of time...I don't care what anyone says about IgE...NAET works and it has given me my life back and a brighter future for my son.

No creams, no pills, just life as it should be.

 

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Go to the NAET homepage http://www.naet.com/ and look up practitioners in your area. These are people that have been trained by the original discoverer/creator of NAET, so they are "purists," so to speak. It will tell what level of training they have received. I would prefer someone who has been doing it for a few years over someone who is just starting out.

My son, almost 3, has been having NAET treatments over the past year and we are having tremendous success. He has (had) multiple food allergies, including tree nuts. I have been taking it nice and slow, usually one treatment every 3 weeks or so, because the avoidance diet for the next 24 hrs can be difficult for a toddler. My sons eczema is almost cured. Our next treatment is the last food allergy treatment - grains. Then we move on to pet dander.

My son used to have terrible reactions to pet dander in all its forms. Within 20 mins of being in my MIL's house (she has 2 dogs and keeps them away when we visit) he is an itchy mess, and we have to leave. Now, with all the NAET treatments even his pet dander allergy is almost cured, and we haven't even treated that yet. Our practitioner described this effect as the treated allergies were at the bottom of a stack of blocks, and pet dander is at the top. The block at the top is the most unstable of the pile, but as we treat the allergies from the bottom up, the top "block" is no longer as unstable, thus his improvement. We are going to get a dog soon!

Our practioner continues her education with the "inventor" of the protocol. She travels to India 3 or 4 times a year to learn more. I agree with the PP, it is important to find a practitioner who is well qualified in this treatment. I grilled 3 prospects, and the practitioner I chose did not mind my questions and spent lots of time with me going over the protocol. Then I asked all around my town about her and all the reports I got were more than positive, they were glowing.

I take the time to write all of this because my husband and I were very skeptical, but now we are NAET-thumping converts! Find an excellent practitioner and check it out.

 

If you don't have an IgE allergy and want to try it, I would say go for it.

If it is a medically dx IgE allergy, meaning you (a general you) could die from it, I would never try it and have never heard of anyone being "cured" of IgE allergies. I am not saying that it may not be a viable option for non-IgE allergies but would never risk it with a life threatening allergy,

 

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If you don't have an IgE allergy and want to try it, I would say go for it.

If it is a medically dx IgE allergy, meaning you (a general you) could die from it, I would never try it and have never heard of anyone being "cured" of IgE allergies. I am not saying that it may not be a viable option for non-IgE allergies but would never risk it with a life threatening allergy,

I was turned onto NAET about 12 yrs ago by a friend who was allergic to everything - her list of safe foods was shockingly short and she was anaphalactic for shellfish. And what convinced me to give it a try was when i came over to her house and she was eating shrimp, telling me how much she enjoyed them now she could have them.

I'm like the OP, allopathic docs couldnt figure out the cause of my "asthma" - i had all the symptoms, but the tests came back negative. I was carrying around 2 rescue inhalers because i was having attacks several times a day. 2 NAET treatments and i was able to shelve my inhalers. I continued 1-2x/wk for about 2 yrs. Eliminating a tomato allergy that caused projectile vomiting, a cilantro allergy that caused a lifelong aversion (now i love it), all sorts of reactions, although the first ones were the most severe.

I took DS to see her a few days ago after the allergist refused to test him (theres a thread on here about my run-in w the allergist). We weren't able to get a whole lot of testing done (I'm taking a MT next time), but we were able to pinpoint several reactions, including one to his formula (which is what we treated). I'm more interested in ID than treatment right now, since avoidance isnt that difficult at this age for most things (other than formula). But his reactions to potassium and magnesium will be treated next week because those are huge.

At the same time, the rest of my family are raging skeptics. I've suggested it to several friends and family members complaining about issues and i think my dad tried a few visits and my bff did a few also. Most though looked at me like i sprouted a second head. Including my DH. But, since he at least knows ive had great success w it myself and western medicine failed DS, he's willing to let me take the lead on it. No one is saying you have to try it, but especially for those of us failed by western medicine, this can be a great option.

 

*IF* it worked for IgE allergies, there would be a ton of research on it and Dr's everywhere would do it.

 

You've made your position clear. Why continue beating a dead horse? You don't believe it, you won't do it. That's fine. That's your right. But you said above you'd never even heard of it working on ige, so I shared the story of someone I personally know who had done it. You still don't care to consider it, that is completely your right, by why are you trying to debate the issue? The OP and I are sharing our personal experiences, neither of us is here for a fight. If western medical science has given you all the info and help you want/need then that's great. Please respect the fact that it has not done so for some of us, so we have gone looking for alternatives and had success with this.

 

I will continue to inform people that it hasn't been proven safe to IgE allergies because there is the very real possibility of someone trying it and dying from doing so.

So I will continue to ask questions, beat a dead horse and try to keep people safe in doing so. If anyone can prove to me that it did "cure" an IgE allergy, I will gladly listen. But i am not going to take "My friends friends cousin" type of thing. If someone can present actual lab work the goes along with no longer being allergic, I am all ears!

The ONLY way to assure a person doesn't die from an ana reaction is to not expose them to one. So is western medicine great? No, they have no options but avoiding allergens. But if it's a choice between that and purposefully exposing my child to something that could kill them? I'll take the western approach to it.

 

I was referred to NAET by a friend, who is the wife of a prominent pastor in my town. Her son had projectile vomiting from birth even when my friend was exclusively breast feeding. Her daughter had life threatening peanut allergies and carried an epi pen. Her most severe reaction meant a trip to the ER for treatment, her eyes were almost bulging out of her head and her breathing was very labored. Daughter and son both tested positive for various allergies, including, as I said, peanuts for the daughter.

Fast forward - daughter was NAET treated for peanuts. Previously she was unable to even touch anything that came into contact with peanuts because she would react. Mom gave her a fingertip of peanut butter, epi pen at hand. No reaction at all - no hives, no itchy mouth, no swollen or bulging out eyes. So then they had a candy bar party. Most candy is prepared in factories where peanuts are present, so she had never had a candy bar in her life. Her parents took pictures because for daughter, this was a huge deal!

Son can now go to birthday parties without his special mom-prepared wheat free, egg free cupcake, because now he can eat any cake without a reaction.

My friends husband, the pastor, is very torn by all of this. He's a skeptic who also has religious reasons for thinking this treatment is not Christian. He has walked around his living room muttering "I don't know why this works, but it does" Because of their profession, my friend only talks about this privately to certain people because she feels parishioners would be scandalized. But that's a story for another time

It works. Like my friends husband "I don't know why it works but it does" My son can eat eggs and soy. He was treated for peanuts too, but I have not given him any peanut butter to try. He won't go near it! We drilled it in him to avoid peanuts at all costs, and at almost 3 years of age, he still won't try. He won't even eat Sun Nut butter, which tastes just like PB but is made of sunflower seeds. I guess I could sneak it in some other food to test, but have not done so. But he no longer reacts to the eggs and soy, and his excema has improved 95 %. I am sure once we treat grains he will be 100% improved.

 

Tuscany - can you share the long list of questions you asked when you were searching for a practitioner? I'm so new to this, I have no idea what to ask.

 

Not so, unfortunately. Almost zero research is done on any alternative therapies, including ones that are accepted as somewhat legitimate, like acupuncture or chiropractic care. (For what its worth, NAET works along the same energy meridians that acupuncture does) The reason for no studies? There are no drugs involved and the pharmaceutical/insurance companies do not stand to make any profit from it.

You know, lots of alternative therapies and treatments work for all kinds of different illnesses and diseases but there is very little research going on to support any of them. All those big fancy studies done for allopathic treatments cost a lot of money, which comes from the medical/pharmaceutical industry. To add to that, the studies are usually biased and designed to show findings that support the treatments advocated by the industry, namely drugs. Further again, the industry actively engages in smear campaigns that are meant to scare the public away from any alternative medicine and back in to the dr's office.

I'm not saying everyone with allergies can be helped by NAET but I don't think it can be discounted because of lack of studies or proof. I personally know of several people in my community who have been 'cured' of allergies with NAET treatments. I am not certain if any of them were IgE allergies because lots of people here skip the allergist altogether (they are so incredibly unhelpful it is astounding) and go straight to the NAET lady. I can tell you myself that I know allergies are intimately connected with emotions and that I have seen it work with lots of people...

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*IF* it worked for IgE allergies, there would be a ton of research on it and Dr's everywhere would do it.

 

Allergists are helpful for IgE allergies. They can do things like prescribe Epi pens which are necessary when dealing with ana allergies. They do testing, which I know doesn't have the highest rate of accuracy but it can and does help people find a path to start on. They can also do things like allergy therapy (shots or orally).

I have not said the treatment of non- IgE allergies with alternative therapies isn't possible. The danger of using them with IgE allergies is great and I would warn anyone to stay away from it for true IgE allergies.

As for money making, I agree to a point. At the same time, if these treatments are so great, why do people who practice NAET charge the amount of $ they do? It seems like a HUGE money sink for something that doesn't work/doesn't often work. The person around here who does it charges $600 for the initial consult and $200 for EACH allergen. If they are that excited about helping people, make it reasonable for people to get it done. Though maybe that's better as I fear more kids would be in danger if it was cheaper.

 

I don't need an allergist to get an epi-pen. It was the only thing worthwhile they did for us and I'm grateful that medicine is there should people need it. Yes they do testing but it is notoriously inaccurate. I have seen NAET be much more efficient at identifying allergens than allopathic lab testing. I'm sure others have had better experiences than us though. From what I've encountered, there are very few allergists who will even consider things that they didn't learn about in med school and refuse to acknowledge issues that might be involved like gut health, immunizations, antibiotic use, etc.

Wow, that is a lot of money! But it is probably less than what your insurance pays for regular allergy appts/testing, etc. My mom recently got some allergy testing done and she payed over $1300 out-of-pocket for the lab results alone because her deductible is so high. My NAET practitioner charges $60 per hour, period. I don't know why others would charge so much more, although my practitioner is booked all the time so she doesn't need to charge that much per visit. I would never be able to afford to go if it were much more than that.

You have me curious though and I'm wondering if there are many stories of documented IgE allergies being resolved with NAET. I would bet that there definitely are (like the one posted above), I just haven't looked into it. I agree though, that it could be dangerous and anyone going down that path ought to know what they're doing and be prepared for adverse outcomes.

 

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I'm wondering if there are many stories of documented IgE allergies being resolved with NAET. I would bet that there definitely are (like the one posted above), I just haven't looked into it. I agree though, that it could be dangerous and anyone going down that path ought to know what they're doing and be prepared for adverse outcomes.

This is the thing. I am not looking for stories. I am looking for lab tested proof. I am scientifically minded and I would want lab tested proof before I would ever consider this an acceptable form of treatment for IgE allergies. I have NEVER seen seen any such proof.

Yeah, in this neck of the woods, NAET is that expensive. Would I pay for it out of pocket if I believed (and had proof) that such a thing worked? I sure as heck would. To not have to worry would be a total joy and I would spend whatever it was to do so. Again, till there is proof, it is just too risky!

Also, I agree with what is taught in med school and needing to find a Dr. who is up on all things (conventional and otherwise). We are on our 5th allergist and have finally found someone who seems pretty on top of things! Also, there are Dr. who are VERY much into gut health and how they impact things like Celiac and other issues (like food allergies). The top Celiac researcher in the US will tell you you need 3 things for Celiac. 1) Genetics 2) exposure to gluten and 3) a leaky gut.

Immunity is a really tough field in medicine. There are SO many grey areas that is leaves a lot up in the air. There are different schools of thought on MOST issues in the field. The only one I am confident in saying all allergists will agree on is that the only way to assure not having a reaction is total avoidance of an allergen.

 

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Tuscany - can you share the long list of questions you asked when you were searching for a practitioner? I'm so new to this, I have no idea what to ask.

How does NAET work?

How long have you been practicing?

How much training have you received, when and where?

Do you take continuing education?

How many potential allergins do you test for?

What is the order of treating particular allergens, and why can't we move straight to peanuts?

How many treatments will my son need?

Can my 3 yr old be treated with NAET?

Can I be my son's surrogate, or will you use one of your employees?

Do you use needles?

Does NAET work for everyone?

When will we see an improvement in sons condition?

Does NAET interfere with any medications?

Will sons allergies return after the treatments?

Can you provide me a list of 3 or 4 patients you have who have benefited from your services who would talk to me?

What is the cost of the treatments?

Our practitioner charges $59 per treatment. The first session she charged more ($130 I think) because she did all the testing at this appointment and asked questions.

 

Thank you, Tuscany! That's a great list.

 

I would add to the questions:

1) Has anyone had a reaction in your office?

2) Would you be willing to have me/my child try the allergen in your office?

3) What would you do if me/my child did have a reaction in your office?

4) Do you have life saving equipment/capabilities if something were to happen?